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Transcript of Bobby Valentine on The Big Show: ‘If I were there, I’d punch you right in the mouth’ 09.05.12 at 4:01 pm ET
By WEEI

Making his weekly appearance on The Big Show on Wednesday afternoon, Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine turned in an interview that could go down as one of the most heated exchanges a Boston coach has ever had.

Bobby Valentine

Valentine said he wanted to punch host Glenn Ordway “right in the mouth,” but noted that he would like to return to manage the Red Sox in 2013, even after a 2012 season that he characterized as a personally “miserable” one.

“This is what I chose to do. I think it’s been miserable, but it’s also been part of my life’s journey,” said Valentine. “You learn from misery.”

Asked if he was concerned about the ownership not commenting on whether he’d return next season, Valentine replied, “No, would it concern you?”

He added that he would like to manage the Sox next season.

“Of course,” he said. “If that’s what I’m asked to do, that’s what I’m going to get paid to do.”

Valentine took particular issue to two questions. The first occurred when he was asked if he had “checked out” on a season in which the Red Sox have fallen 11 games under .500.

“What an embarrassing thing to say. If I were there right now, I’d punch you right in the mouth. Ha, ha. How’s that sound? Is that like I checked out? What an embarrassing thing,” said Valentine. “Why would somebody even, that’s stuff that a comic strip person would write. If someone’s here, watching me go out at 2 o’clock in the afternoon, watching me put in the right relief pitchers to get a win, putting on a hit-and-run when it was necessary, talking to the guys after the game in the food room — how could someone in real life say that?”

Below is a complete transcript of the conversation:

Have you checked out?

What an embarrassing thing to say. If I were there, I’d punch you right in the mouth. Ha, ha. How’s that sound? Is that like I checked out? What an embarrassing thing. Why would somebody even, that’s stuff that a comic strip person would write. If someone’s here, watching me go out at 2 o’clock in the afternoon working with the young players, watching me put in the right relief pitchers to get a win, putting on a hit-and-run when it was necessary, talking to the guys after the game in the food room — how could someone in real life say that?

You were late at a ballgame last week.

I shouldn’t have to explain that. That pisses me off. Whoever wrote that knew what happened. They knew that my son was coming to see me for the first time in this lousy season and that I got to see him on the road, and that his flight was late, and that I was waiting at the airport in San Francisco for his flight to come in, and that came in, I sent the lineup in and reported to my coaches that I was going to be a little late. For someone to say that I was late is an absolute disgrace to their integrity, if they have any.

Are you showing up putting in your best effort? Are your players?

I just told you, when you said what you said, you should apologize to me for saying that I came late.

Were you not late?

I wasn’t late. When you call in and say that you’re delayed in traffic coming from the San Francisco Airport to the stupid Oakland Coliseum and that there’s a traffic jam, then you’re not late, no.

How did it make the papers?

When I walked into the clubhouse with my son, the press was already in the clubhouse. You would think that one of these incompetent people would say, or ask a question, “Hey, why is it 4 o’clock …” — and, you know, 4 o’clock, like that’s so late for a 7:15 game. Joe Maddon gets there every day at 4 o’clock, just for the record — when I walked in and someone is going to write that, wouldn’t you think that they’d say, “Hey — why is it that you just got to the ballpark? You’re usually here at 2. Why are you here today at 4?’ And I could have introduced them to my son, and explained to them about the flight that was delayed because of the fog, and that I was waiting at the San Francisco Airport and that his phone had died and I had no way of letting him know I wasn’t going to be there.

Are you concerned that the owners haven’t said whether you will be back in 2013?

No. Should it concern you?

I’d be concerned if it was my job.  I would want assurances.

This is not who I am. This is just what I am. I am concerned with who I am.

Do you want to come back next year?

I want to do whatever I can do to wake up every morning and do the best I can at whatever I choose to do.

Do you choose to manage the Red Sox in 2013?

Of course, if that’s what I’m asked to do and that’s what I’m going to get paid to do. … Who wrote that I was late, by the way? That really pisses me off.

You said recently you aren’t doing a good job based on the record. John Henry, in a Sports Illustrated article, said that you have done a good job given what you faced. Now that you know what you know about the team, do you feel you’re doing a good job?

I come to work every day and give them the best that I can possibly do. If there’s something more that somebody else could have done and they could have done it better, then wallah to them. But all I know is I give my best every single day.

On the rest of the season:

It’s all about small victories. It’s all about trying to get things accomplished that you can check off the checklist. Having a young guy get a big home run last night in [Ryan] Lavarnway, I think that’s a checklist. It’s making sure he wasn’t giving up on himself as some might think some are giving up, to make sure that Dustin Pedroia understands his great effort is being totally appreciated even though it’s not the effort that’s going to bring this group to where it wants to go. To make sure that the arm’s OK. At the end of the season, if they can come back and be as good as they can possibly be, to do all the things that you do whether you’re in a championship pennant race or whether you’re in the situation we’re in to try to build and make things better tomorrow than they were today.

Nick Cafardo mentioned the tardiness in The Boston Globe.

Did he really? That’s really embarrassing, Nick. I’ll see him when I get out there. He could have asked me very easily.

He wasn’t the only one to report it.

Yeah I know, but it’s cheap journalism, isn’t it? Joe Maddon in his Sports Illustrated article, the article that just came out the other day, he said, “What do you think I’m going to do? Go around the clubhouse and sit around in my underwear for a couple of hours? I show up at 3:30 and 4:00 every day. Every day.” Does that mean he’s late every day?

On his postgame press conferences:

What difference does it make how I feel personally? “Oh, how does this make you feel?” What difference does it make how I feel personally? That’s what I said to Pete Abraham when he asked the question. Now does that mean that I don’t care? No, it means I care about how the players feel, and after the game I went around to a lot of the lockers, not every locker, and I tried to get the guys to feel like they can win the game and that their effort is being appreciated. That they’re trying to do too much and don’t try to do too much. And when I get in with the great press and I’m not in the greatest of moods, they’re going to start asking me, “Aw, so how is your temperature after losing all these games?” They want me to say, “Oh, man, I’m so pissed off. I can’t even stand it!” I’m not going to do that. Why would I do that? What difference does it make how I feel?

This is pretty good radio, today?

How was your breakfast meeting with John Henry in Seattle?

Breakfast itself was very disappointing. … The oatmeal was cold. They didn’t even have brown sugar for the oatmeal. Of all places, Seattle not having brown sugar. John Henry’s ham was overcooked, and they said this was one of the best breakfast spots in the city.

Did you like the exchange of information?

They want to make sure that they know that I know that they’re in it, that they give a darn, that they’re trying to do everything that they can to right the ship and be part of the solution and not part of the problem. Yeah, I thought it was a good meeting.

On pitching Alfredo Aceves as much as he did last week:

He wasn’t my closer at the time. Since Andrew Bailey has been back, we’ve been trying to stretch Alfredo out to see if we can lengthen, and Ben [Cherington] I talked about the possible chance of lengthening him out, to get more pitches thrown so that possibly if we needed a starter, he could jump into that rotation given our starting group is running a little thin. Is that a good reason for pitching him what would be 100 pitches in a game, I actually did it over that week’s span?

That’s a logical answer.

Well why didn’t you think of that? Or why didn’t someone write that? … You should already know that stuff, or someone should ask the question. You were right, you asked the question. People who are there every day don’t ask the question and would probably write something contrary to what’s happening.

But I did say that. I think I did say that quite a few times in the press that we’re trying to stretch him out.

Do you regret coming back to manage?

No, I don’t regret it. Regret returning? No, life is the journey you guys. You have to understand that. Everyone thinks that misery is something that people run away from. I think you learn from misery, you learn from challenges, you learn from failures as well as you learn from success. So, this what I chose to do. I think it’s been miserable, but I also think it’s been part of my life’s journey.

What have you learned from this year?

Obviously that in the month of September here that having things go as badly as they’ve gone, to still have so many friends that reach out to me every day. To have a friend who would be seen in public with me as I’m taking photographs with all the Boston fans on the ferry and he’s not running away from the friendship that we established for years. It’s very reassuring that life is a good thing.

Did you get a fair shake in Boston? If you had to do it all over again would you do things differently?

I think I tried to be myself, but I tried to adapt to a system and a culture that was kind of foreign to me. As I’ve said, I’ve done that before and I never saw it work right from the beginning, because I didn’t know everything that I was dealing with right from the beginning. It takes time to understand all the intricacies of the situation.

Does having to listen to multiple voices make it difficult to do the job the way you envisioned it?

I’m not sure where that’s coming from, but you’re trying to take all the information that you’re given, when you’re planning the game plan, you have to get the scouts information and the players information, medical information, coaches information, and then get a game plan together. Unfortunately, when you do it on the fly, it’s hard to decipher where the good information comes from.

Did you enough time to figure out the intricacies of the organization before the took the job?

Well, I didn’t come in here blindfolded. I knew there was a situation. I would say that along the way there probably could have been lot more briefing, but I think when I was bushwhacked I got out of the other side of the path OK, even though I might have been wounded here and there.

Ordway and Holley say they’ll talk to him next week.

I promise, if you don’t say anything about my family and things that are most upset about me, I’ll never get upset again.

Ordway says he was just asking about something that was reported.

I guess I should read the paper or at least have someone read it and say, “You know, can you believe this was reported,” so I could at least correct it before Wednesday comes around so I’m not bushwhacked.

Ordway: OK, we’ll see you next Wednesday.

All I’m going to say is I am very, very disappointed and personally hurt that someone would actually report that that was a day of coming late.

After 42 years on the job, to do something that was absolutely proper in waiting for my son’s late plane to get there. I know he’s 29 and he could have made it from San Francisco to Oakland on his own, but I wanted to be there when he got off that plane because that’s what I promised him, and to get there the same time another manager in my division gets there every day [Maddon] — not one day, every day, OK? And have someone report that that’s getting to work late, I think it’s just irresponsible.

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  • Bob

    I am so thankful I don’t have to answer scores of silly questions from a bunch of miserable pricks at the end of every work day.  That would suck. “Why’d you do this?  Why’d you do that?”  Fah-Q.

  • Phil

    I find Ordway obnoxious, and generally irritating.  He was true to form today!…..I don’t listen to him,…and only did so this afternoon,because I was in someone else’s car!

    ps. He also has a bad voice for radio.

  • Sean

     That would suck if you got payed whatever you get paid now. If you made tons of money to manage one of the most popular sports teams in town you’d have known long before you ever took the job that this was coming… and happily take your checks to the bank.

  • Ram32

    Who proof reads these articles…It’s “WRITE” that answer, not “RIGHT” that answer…Geez!
       Let me guess, they have hotdogs “four sail” at the ball games…? 

  • Bud61722

    Glenn should be ashamed of himself.  If he read Cafardo’s piece, it stated “If they believe that Valentine showing up late one time for a 7:10 game (at 4:15) was an egregious offense — he was picking up his son and got caught in traffic — then he will be fired.”  In the Valenbtine interview, Glenn only referenced Cafardo as writing Valentine was late without stating that Cafardo mentioned the reason.  Hopefully, Valentine will read all the pieces about his being late and realize Glenn’s irresponsibility.

    Bud

  • Frank

    Yeah Phil.  You dont listen and you dont check out the website either.  LOL.  What a moron

  • Fmpz33919

    As Bryce Harper would say “that’s a clown question bro”. BV should be insulted by the interview…..really a interrogation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kenkraly2004 Kenny Kraly Jr

    Just fire bobby v already red sox. And when your asked a question answer it don’t lash out at the radio host bobby v.

  • Anonymous

    Boycott WEEI and Ordway. Boston wants sports reporting.

  • Guestspartan

    bobby v is doing what he can dealing with those pampered jacka$$$ and i say let fenway burn baby burn.

  • Anonymous

    glenn orway is a douche bag. he is now and has always been one. they brought holley in to save the show, but their days are numbered. i would pay a $1,000. to see valentine punch orway in the mouth. the boston media ran duquette out of town just the way they are doing to valentine. now duquette has his baltimore team tied for first  with the yankees. just look around and see how many radio and print guys there is in boston. it is embarrassing listening to another douche bag name callahan in the morning. i would swear callahan chewed on window sills as a child. i don’t think there is a baseball manager alive that could do a better job than what valentine was dealt. he lost his starting left and center fielder for at least four months. he just got back his closer after 5 months. youkilis was traded and his replacement broke his wrist. he lost pedroia for a good length of time. and then he lost ortiz for the rest of the year.  his 1 and 2 starters stunk up the season. they had to trade gonzo to get rid od crawford and beckett. then they bring up aaa players to get a look at them. what manager could ever win with what has happened to valentine. i was not in favor of his hiring, but i like what he has done. he was a better manager of the bullpen than francona ever was. francona was always an inning late and was afraid to waer out the bullpen. sometimes it is better to be lucky than good. francona was lucky, but many other managers could win with a $170,000,000 payroll. i hope henry and his partners have the balls to stand up against the lousy negative boston media. i hope thay bring valentine back to manage in 2013. 

  • Ipse Amicus

    First time I think I see Valentine in a good light.  But I have been complaining about these reporters wanting to give a reality TV show thing rather than report on baseball.  Hey, a lot of the things in here were reported by Alex Speier in his recent article.  He should explain why he never gave all the facts like for example, it is not late coming at 4 if other managers come by then and the poor guy is picking his son up at the airport.  Maybe Alex doesn’t have a son. 

  • SeattleWA

    Glenn Ordway – be a man. Don’t bait someone. You’ll pay for that. Hell, if I was there, I’d punch you in the mouth too and send you to the dentist, you lousy good for nothing obnoxious POS. And that’s exactly what you are. The people in Boston don’t care for you. This is just another reason why.

  • Billy OBrien

    Bobby will be getting paid by the red sox nest year to do nothing. He will be laughing his way to the bank. The media has been total DB’s to this guy since he got here. 

  • Bigpapa02001

    If it isn’t contractual, I would never go on with Ordway. Give the guy a chance to answer a legit question as opposed to “Have you checked out?”…The whole damn team has checked out. BV should not be back, but whoever comes in better be a personable yes man or the same thing is going to happen.

  • Chaswrusso

    Ordway, are you for real?  Is that the best you can do?  I’m not a big fanof BV, but there is no evidence to support asking that question.  I stopped listening to you 2 years ago. Questions like that one to BV is why I stopped listening to your show.

  • Nate

    Ordway was just doing his job asking Hard questions of a manager who has quit just like the team.  To all of those who do not like Glen and Holley then I suggest you listen to all of those sports-talk show based in NYC, like the Band Wagon sports network ESPN or YES or SNY.
    Go ahead with this silly boycott of WEEI, what are you little girly-men going to listen to, Flushed Limbaugh or some other Lying talking Dead Head. 
    The Red Sox Suck, period and blaming WEEI is just childish a and wimping out.  I have been a fan of the Red Sox since the mid 1970′s and the team Sucks, Period!

  • pds

    Ordway is such a hack.  Ask the same question ninety different ways…

  • Jim

    Glen, what a stupid question to ask.  You didn’t have any facts when you asked it and Bobby V had every right to erupt.  Everyone assumes and doesn’t ask.  You sounded like a complete idiot. Shame on the Big Show. No class. No class at all.

  • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.duhamel.5 Andrew Duhamel

    I pity whoever has no choice but to talk to this schmuck on a daily basis, let alone decipher an entire conversation with him.

  • Dismayed

    I can’t believe how clueless Ordway is, then he spends the rest of his show defending himself. Any MAN would want to punch someone in the mouth if they questioned his commitment. Unbelievable Glenn, wake up.

  • Robertsmitharse

    So long as people recognize Bobby as the psychologically unstable person he is, then everything should be fine. Some reporters though are big time sell outs and the mean ones have accepted the fact that they are going to be immoral pricks. This particular predicament is an example of something I’ve always disliked about sports. Although it may seem entertaining, it does really affect the viewers’ judgements when they misinterpret these situations, like a lot of people who believe in the comments they post here. Come on everybody…. it’s just baseball

  • gordon

    I think the boston media is way out of control, and out of line. Not just about this particular issue but with all the 4 major sports. Talk radio ya it;s good but out of controll. I dont blame athletes when the get frustrated with reporters, its a joke they have to print article and sell papers. And of course now bot boston sports talk sations or now pitted against eahc other.

  • Old Time Hockey

    no, but thank God we have you to correct the grammar. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/derek.lee.82 Derek Lee

    This manager has conducted himself like a moron all year. I have zero sympathy to see him picked on by the media

  • Bridgei

    If Bobby V’s Red Sox career was a horse … they’d shoot it.

  • Larrygould

    ordway’squestion was insulting.what a blowhard.

  • Think about the draft

    I know the feels it needs red meat, and Bobbie did himself no favors with that interview, but I’m getting a bit sick of the notion that the team isn’t trying hard enough, that the Sox should be doing all they can to win every game, and that if they aren’t they need to fire the manager right away.

    With last night’s loss, the Sox swapped positions with the Padres, and
    rose to 9 in the reverse standings, which by last year’s figures earns
    them another $129,000 or so cap dollars. Losses are so much more valuable than wins right now.

    Until 2013, winning is losing and losing is winning.

  • Think about the draft

     should be the _media_ feels it needs red meat….

  • T-BONE

    Ordway sucks big time. All he does is kick people when they’re down. I hope he never travels that road in his life time. Also WEEI is becoming a clown station. They have terrible hosts Glenn and Steve D are the worst.

  • Strongside

    Ok, we all
    agree, Bobby Valentine was not the right guy for the job but what Ordway did
    yesterday was extremely bush league and unprofessional.

    That was an
    ambush in the worst way, with the only purpose being to incite a hostile
    response and to “make news, not just report it”.
    It’s this
    kind of behavior that promotes the belief that the Boston media is biased and
    is more interested in getting a story first instead of getting it right.

    Make no
    mistake, ownership has enough history and cause to terminate Valentine at any
    time and they will, without the need for the sensational garbage that you
    create.

    Do
    yourselves a favor and stop being that National Enquire for Boston Sports!

  • Doug

    What is the aim ow WEEI, to make people look bad?  They seem to delight in smearing people, it’s as simple as that, I don’t like Bobby V, but I would never try to make him look bad like these puppets at WEEI, his actions speak louder than words, and the so called reporters are simply muck rakers who soul purpose in life is to demean people, how can you guys look in the mirror, oh I guess you’ve passed that point a long time ago.  Adios to this rotten mud slinging outift.

  • Doug

    It seems that hey are used to mud slinging, plus you’ve got guys with no pride in important positions Schill, that rat is mouthing off about Valentine, yet he’s cost lots of people their jobs and bankrupted many also, this is a national disgrace and ESPN couldn’t care less, what is going on here?

  • Doug

    Good post, I disagree on Valentine as manager, but I respect what you said and he did do a good job under terrible circumstances, he made enemies along the way and he is mentally unstable, there can be no doubt about that, I just wish this club was sold right away, it’s so easy to see that little or no progress will be made as long as Leaping Larry is playing Puppet Master and guiding this fiasco that is called a FO, I’ll always love the Red Sox, but we need a strong FO with interests in Baseball only, now I hear the Soccer team is in terrible shape and Liverpool is likely to blow up!  Get with the program John, sell this club to somebody that has the interests of Boston at heart.

  • Doug

    You got that right, this is not media, it is jackals manipulating facts to their advantage & then upsetting the Applecart & making a big production out of nothing when you come right down to it!  This is their continual motive, it’s sickening. I’m very fortunate that I seldom listen to this gossip station, how many lives has it ruined?

  • Doug

    Well Nate you are one for the books, we are specifically talking about WEII, not other stations, regarding the issue at hand it seems 95-1 that Ordway is lucky he didn’t get punched in the mouth, I think even you can understand that?  I’ve been a fan since 1950 and have undergone worse teams than this, it’s a miracle this team has done as well as it has considering all the injuries, trades, underperforming players and the like, then listening to you calling loyal fans “little girly-men” reflects your shallow persona, you should be a major figure in WEEI as you have what it takes to be a MuckRaker and just a plain rotten no where man!

  • Doug

    The show should and could accurately be called the “Big Snowjob”

  • Doug

    It’s almost like pitting Evil vs Evil, when you get a scum bag like Schilling throwing dirt around, you have to question his employer, ESPN , they obviously have no scruples.

  • Migs

    It’s very cool that he waited for his son. He could afford to send a limo or a fleet of limos. But he stood by his promise despite the fact that it might not have been the best thing for his job. Perfect example of family before work.

  • John C

    That is part of the job, and why it is not easy to manage in this town. Of course winning makes everything easier, but part of the job is communicating with the press — that is how we learn about the team. One of the things that has changed in the game is that the successful managers are ones who never get too high, and never get too low. A steady even keel. 

    As far as the team, well, when you fire the best manager this team has EVER had (I know there was a manager who won two world championships back in 1915-16, but the team wasn’t under the glare of the media that it is today. 

    What this shows is a manger under a great deal of stress. Do people think Francona had to deal with that? How do you think it was to manage Manny every day. But he rarely spoke of it in the media. Rather like Belichick. 

    But Valentine has a hard time knowing when to keep his mouth shut. There is a reason he hadn’t managed in the major leagues for ten years.

  • John C

    He got this way 30 years ago when he went after Don Zimmer. Zim just never learned to shut the radio off. 

  • John C

    Then why are you here? 

  • John C

    Perhaps “many” managers could win a world championship, but Francona DID. TWICE. And not exactly easy circumstances. He brought this team back down 0-3, and then pulled the team to four straight wins just to get to the Series. Obviously the players have to play, and there is luck involved, but Fracona put those players in position to win. That 2004 postseason was one of the greatest comebacks of all time. 

    Every team has injuries. But if you give players an excuse to lose (the injuries, the umpires, a fan grabbing a ball) then they will find a way to lose. 

    Even with the terrible April and September, the Sox were in it until the last day of the season. (and both New York and Tampa were eliminated in the first round). 

    You don’t get rid of a manager as successful as Francona unless you know you will have someone better to replace him.

    And by ANY objective measure, Valentine was NOT a better manager. One of the biggest factors in 2011 was the loss of John Farrell. If the Sox are lucky, they MAY get him to come here as manager, and settle the pitching staff down. That has been the glaring weakness. 

    But there needs to be changes made in the ownership (and Lucchino) and how they interfere in the decision making process. 

    Valentine NEVER won a championship. His predecessor did — TWICE, and with two teams that were quite different from each other. 

    I am grateful he was here. 

  • John C

    When a team is down by 15 games, then reporters are GOING to look for reality tv/ soap opera stories. The problem is that all too often Valentine provides him with this. All he needed to do was to explain in one sentence what happened, and that would have been the end of that.

    But dealing with the press is part of the game. There is a reason why he has not been a manager for 10 years. 

  • Anonymous

    you are entitled to your opinion john. francona never had any success anywhere he managed before coming to boston. he was giving a very large payroll that one other team had. most teams have half of the red sox payroll. francona would not have done any better than brad mills had done with a team like houston. i don’t know why you think francona was so brilliant. he was a terrible manager of his bullpen. he let the players run the clubhouse. i think there should be a little separation between management and player. he played cribbage with pedroia and i don’t always agree with that. it is hard to discipline your players when you become friends with your players. i was sick when the sox were down 0-3 in the alcs. it was a miracle when they came back and won. i was thrilled and especially against the yankees, but i don’t give all the credit to francona like you do. you have yor opinion and i have mine. there were always softball questions when francona was interviewed on weei. there are too many guys in the boston media. they are very negative and are always looking for a scoop. ordway would never have asked francona if he checked out. i was not a valentine fan before he came to the red sox. i gave him a chance to turn my opinion around. i really think he did that in spite of the injuries and collapse of their two top starters. i would bring him back and let him pick his own coaches instead of having some of francona holdovers. i don’t think the red sox have a world series winning team right now. it might take a few years to rebuild. its too bad they had to give up gonzalez to get rid of beckett and crawford. recently i saw francona at mohegan sun with his honey bunny. he was acting like a real jerk with a brandy snifter in his hand. i would love to see him get hired in houston. i would like to see if he could be a success with a team payroll of  25,000,000- 50,000,000. twins (65 mil). royals (47 mil), indians (50 mil). i don’t know of any manager could win with those teams. that is a big difference from having a 175,000,000 dollar payroll. sometime it is better to be lucky than good. francona was in the right place and very LUCKY.  

  • John C

    It is part of the job description. And he gets paid very well to do it. And those reporters and columnists help promote the team, which generates revenue.

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