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Hanley Ramirez’s shoulder is causing all kinds of problems

03.02.17 at 10:45 pm ET
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Hanley Ramirez (Kim Klement/USA Today Sports)

Hanley Ramirez (Kim Klement/USA Today Sports)

FORT MYERS, Fla. — Hanley Ramirez might not like it, but he just landed with the best-case scenario.

After talking to Moises Alou, the general manager of Team Dominican Republic in the World Baseball Classic, it was determined that Ramirez would be going to represent his country in the tournament due to the slugger’s lingering right shoulder stiffness.

“We settled some points,” said Ramirez, who is being replaced on the DR roster by Jean Segura. “Tried to wait to recover and how we were going to do it, maybe I could meet the team in Miami, give me a week to stay here and get healthy. He told me he wanted the chemistry of the team, he wanted everyone together from the first day. I said ‘Yeah, that’s fine. If you don’t find somebody, you can call me.’ I leave my door open to go but that’s his decision and I just have to get healthy.”

It was the right move, especially now we know that this whole shoulder thing was a bit worse than previously thought.

Ramirez also took it slow leading into last season’s spring training games, not initially throwing during the first few workouts on the back fields at JetBlue Park. But by the time March 2 came around, he was at first base with clearance to throw away.

Exactly one year later, Ramirez offered some comparison when asked if the achy right shoulder felt the same.

“That’s a little different because last year I was able to throw. This year is a little bit different,” said Ramirez, who explained he started feeling the tightness a “couple of days” after arriving in camp. “Right now we’re looking good.”

Without the pressures of the WBC, or even having to play first base, Ramirez can now take his time. Which is good, because it appears as though he is going to need it.

“It’s a long spring,” said Ramirez, who hit his first home run of the spring Thursday. “We’re going to go slowly. Like I said, I’ve got to be ready for April.”

Eduardo Rodriguez sure looked like he might be ready to pick up slack in Red Sox rotation

03.02.17 at 5:05 pm ET
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Eduardo Rodriguez (Jasen Vinlove/USA Today Sports)

Eduardo Rodriguez (Jasen Vinlove/USA Today Sports)

FORT MYERS, Fla. — It was just a March 2 spring training game. But the image of Eduardo Rodriguez at JetBlue Park offered a better-than-average impression.

It wasn’t the worse thing in the world for the Red Sox, especially considering the news involving David Price earlier in the day. (To read more about Price, click here.)

Making his first Grapefruit League appearance of the season, having been eased back into things due to his December knee injury, Rodriguez didn’t allow a baserunner against the Rays. The lefty struck out two over two innings before giving way to Craig Kimbrel.

“Quality work by both,” Red Sox manager John Farrell said after his team’s 19-2 win over Tampa Bay. “It was very good to see Eddie go out and establish his fastball in the first inning. In his first outing in spring training, he was in command, he was powerful in the first. I liked the way he used some secondary pitches in his second inning. He was able to get a quality two innings of work. Craig as well. He came in and threw both pitches for strikes. The work that he’s been doing leading up to his first appearance and just establishing that consistent delivery, that was on display in the one inning of work for him.

“Both guys were very encouraging, particularly in light of some of the early-morning news today.”

Rodriguez, who seemed on the edge of potentially not making the rotation before the news involving Price’s elbow, showed the kind of stuff Farrell has continuously raved about leading up to his first spring training outing in almost two years.

“I just want to show I can be in the big leagues and when I show that I’m for ready my opportunity to be on the staff, in the starting rotation,” Rodriguez said. He then added about Price, “I don’t know nothing about that or how he is right now. I just want him to be fine. I don’t want somebody to hurt. Just want him to get back and I want to fight for my spot like I’m supposed to.”

As for the Red Sox’ offense, leading the way was Jackie Bradley Jr., who hit two home runs. Also going deep were Hanley Ramirez, Bryce Brentz and Steve Selsky.

David Price officially headed to Indianapolis for second opinion

03.02.17 at 4:37 pm ET
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FORT MYERS, Fla. — After a day of speculation, the Red Sox offered a bit of clarity regarding the timeline for David Price’s diagnosis.

According to Red Sox manager John Farrell, Price will travel to Indianapolis to meet with noted elbow specialists Dr. James Andrews and Dr. Neal ElAttrache to undergo a second opinion on the pitcher’s ailing left forearm/elbow. Both orthopedists are in Indy due to the NFL Scouting Combine. (To read more about Price’s situation, click here.)

Farrell noted Price was much more optimistic about his situation Thursday, a day after undergoing the initial MRI.

“He’s in much better spirits today, just based on the way he’s feeling, the way he’s doing everyday activities,” Farrell said. “When he came in yesterday morning, there was a little bit more concern on his part just with the soreness that had set in overnight. As yesterday played out, the treatment he received, he felt better by the time he left the ballpark yesterday. Today he came in and was able to go through a full range of treatment again. As the day has gone on, there’s been increased mobility, there’s grip strength that has increased. Positive signs in the 24 to 48 hours following the outing. We’ll wait and see what tomorrow’s exam brings.”

With news of David Price injury, Dave Dombrowski has no regrets about trading Clay Buchholz

03.02.17 at 1:28 pm ET
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Dave Dombrowski. (Kim Klement/USA Today Sports)

Dave Dombrowski. (Kim Klement/USA Today Sports)

FORT MYERS, Fla. — One of the few storylines throughout spring training was what the Red Sox were going to do with six starters. Thursday that talked died down.

With news that David Price was headed for a second opinion on the soreness in his forearm/elbow after taking an MRI, expectations for the rotation have now been re-calibrated. If Price isn’t available, it’s pretty simple: You have Chris Sale, Rick Porcello, Eduardo Rodriguez, Steven Wright and Drew Pomeranz.

After that group, however, it gets a little think considering the depth starters’ track records.

There’s Hector Velazquez (who will now start Saturday), Henry Owens, Brian Johnson, Roenis Elias and Kyle Kendrick.

So it was no surprise that when Dave Dombrowski addressed the media Thursday morning, he was asked about possible regrets concerning his trade of Clay Buchholz.

“Our guys right now, the five starters in addition to David remain healthy. I think there’s five as good starters as you’ll find anywhere as a combination,” Dombrowski said. “We’re still looking for some of our other guys here in camp to establish themselves, we’re just getting started with camp, guys like Johnson, Owens, Elias, Velazquez, Kendrick, so that gives us a little bit more depth.

“The Buchholz situation, no I don’t. That’s just the timing. You’re not going to just hold onto somebody in case things take place later on.”

Buchholz was traded to the Phillies in exchange for minor leaguer Josh Tobias (who you can learn more about by click on this podcast). The priority for the deal was to get the Red Sox under the luxury tax threshold, with Philadelphia picking up all $13.5 million of his contract.

“I’m not going to speculate at this point. I’m just going to wait and see what takes place,” Dombrowski said.

(For more on Price’s situation, click here.)

Hanley Ramirez withdraws from World Baseball Classic, will not join Team Dominican Republic because of sore shoulder

03.02.17 at 10:28 am ET
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Hanley Ramirez

Hanley Ramirez

Hanley Ramirez won’t be playing in the World Baseball Classic after all.

The Red Sox first baseman/DH, who has been limited by a shoulder this spring, withdrew from the tournament on Thursday, Red Sox manager John Farrell said. Ramirez had been booked to leave later that day, but instead will remain with the Red Sox to rehab.

The Red Sox have had concerns about Ramirez’s shoulder since it was revealed that he was having soreness while throwing, which had limited him to DH at-bats this spring.

“We did speak to the Dominican team for the WBC regarding Hanley,” Farrell said. “The most succinct way I can say it is they’re looking to replace Hanley on their roster. He still needs rehab with his shoulder. The throwing program will continue to progress as tolerated so as of now, Hanley will not be joining Team Dominican, with their intent to replace him.

“He’s on board with it,” Farrell added. “He has physical needs and feels the best way to allow him to be ready for the start of our season is to be in here with us.”

The decision was made during a conference call with Farrell, Ramirez, Red Sox president Dave Dombrowski, and Dominican manager Moises Alou.

“He’s prioritizing what his needs are currently and being ready for our season,” Farrell said.

The Red Sox expect Ramirez to DH against right-handed pitching and play first base against left-handers. He is now one of the primary sources of power in the lineup with David Ortiz retired. He hit .286 with 30 homers and 111 RBIs last year.

(Rob Bradford contributed to this report from Florida)

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David Price most likely headed to Dr. James Andrews for second opinion on elbow, and that’s not good news for Red Sox

03.02.17 at 10:09 am ET
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FORT MYERS, Fla. — We were waiting for some significant news from Red Sox camp, and now we have it.

Speaking to the media Thursday morning at JetBlue Park, Red Sox manager John Farrell said that David Price has been scratched from his scheduled start Sunday due to soreness in his pitching elbow/forearm.

Price underwent an MRI and will now seek a second opinion, with the Red Sox attempting to schedule an appointment with renowned elbow specialists Dr. James Andrews and Dr. Neal ElAttrache, who are both currently at the NFL combine in Indianapolis.

The lefty threw two innings of a simulated game Tuesday and felt increased soreness the next day.

“He’s gone through some soreness in the forearm elbow area in previous spring trainings but this one has a little more intensity to it,” Farrell said. “We have a concern for every player, particularly when they can’t make their next scheduled appearance. So he feels improved today over yesterday so that’s an encouraging sign, but still we’ve got to take every step along the way to get our arms around this in its entirety.”

Any visit to Andrews is a clear red flag, however.

“We’re taking every precaution,” Farrell said. “Yes, we are concerned, as we would be with any player. There’s a couple things. We’ve got a lot of history here with David and what his progression through spring training has been. He’s battled this seemingly in every spring training. We will acknowledge this one has a little more intensity to it, so that’s why we’re taking every step and scratching him for Sunday.

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Everything you need to know about Red Sox as they head into March

03.02.17 at 1:33 am ET
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Fernando Abad (Kim Klement/(USA Today Sports)

Fernando Abad (Kim Klement/(USA Today Sports)

FORT MYERS, Fla. — The Red Sox are 1-5 so far in Grapefruit League action. It doesn’t matter. Here are some things that actually should mean something as John Farrell’s team heads into the March …

– There seems to be a legitimate competition for the other left-handed reliever in the Sox’ bullpen. Once the Red Sox decided to tender Fernando Abad a contract, resulting in the southpaw making $2 million in arbitration, the assumption was he would be making the club.

But Abad has done little to suggest he’s turned things around from a year ago (when the Red Sox thought he might be tipping his pitches), leaving the door open for Robby Scott. In a nutshell, Scott (who has options) has looked good, and Abad really hasn’t.

“He knows he’s in competition for a spot,” Farrell told reporters after Abad allowed a three-run homer to Sean Coyle in the Sox’ loss to the Orioles Wednesday. “Even after the error, he has a left-hander you’d like to think he’d finish things off. But we had a number of at-bats where the pitch is ahead in the count and that was the case against Sean Coyle. And yet here’s a fastball that finds the middle of the plate. All those things are part of the evaluation and that’s ongoing with a couple spots on our club.”

Keep an eye on March 17, which marks the deadline to cut Abad and the Red Sox having to pick up just one-sixth of his salary.

The perceived locks for the bullpen right now would be Craig Kimbrel (9th inning), Tyler Thornburg and Joe Kelly (8th), Matt Barnes, Heath Hembree and Robbie Ross Jr. (6th and 7th).

– There is a scenario where neither Abad or Scott make the Opening Day roster, with the Red Sox instead choosing to use the spot to carry an extra starting pitcher. Assuming Drew Pomeranz and Steven Wright are healthy, which the team, a of now, believes will be the case, Eduardo Rodriguez could be spared heading to the minors to start the season. The way Farrell talks of Rodriguez’s pure stuff, saying it matches up with anybody in the rotation, it doesn’t sound a manager describing a minor-leaguer.

– Pablo Sandoval much better in the field, and on the basepaths, while displaying an impressive left-handed swing. As for improvement from the right-side of the plate, that remains to be seen.

Sandoval’s right-handed swing is significantly choppier than from the left side. And while he has a hit and a deep fly out hitting righty, there is still a long way to go before he earns the benefit of the doubt and plays against left-handed starters.

If Sandoval doesn’t show improvement, there is no doubt Josh Rutledge, who will return to action after dealing with some knee soreness, has the best opportunity to get those at-bats vs. southpaws. Right now, the first lefty starters the Red Sox will see won’t come until they visit Detroit, potentially facing off with Daniel Norris and Matt Boyd. The opening series against Pittsburgh will likely bring all right-handers.

– The catchers have drawn rave reviews, from top to bottom. But, barring injury, there seems to be little competition, with Sandy Leon and Christian Vazquez serving as virtual locks to break camp with the club. Leon also isn’t doing anything to lose his title as starter.

Chris Sale was the latest to sing the group’s praises after his simulated game Wednesday. “It’s been phenomenal,” he said. “They’re ridiculous back there. all of them, they’re all one of the first ones here. You come in here at 5:45, 6 o’clock in the morning, you’ll see them in here working their tails off. There’s no surprise to us that they’re as good as they are back there.”

– As for Sale, the one thing that stands out is his prioritizing pitching inside. Lefties. Righties. It doesn’t matter. More times than not, he goes lives there, and makes no apologies for missing. As he told Kirk & Callahan, “It’s either the hitter or you.” Even in the simulated game, that was evident. It also helps explain his major league-leading 17 hit batsmen a year ago.

– It’s starting to feel like this Sam Travis spring training thing isn’t a fluke.

– While a lot has been made of Sandoval’s weight, perhaps the more pressing conditioning need right now is Rafael Devers. The 20-year-old has impressed with his bat in big league camp, but it would appear he needs to shed the pounds in order to be a viable third baseman (not first baseman) going forward.

– He won’t make the team out of spring training, but Ben Taylor will have every opportunity to find his way to the bigs at some point this season thanks to the impression he’s leaving on the major league coaching staff. The 24-year-old reliever has the type of velocity Dave Dombrowski prioritizes in the bullpen. Another young reliever who had been making a solid impression, Chandler Shepherd, had a rough time in his last outing. Shepherd, who doesn’t rely on velocity as much as Taylor, could be found with pitching coach Carl Willis for one-on-one instruction early Wednesday morning.

Brandon Workman is also an interesting wild card for future relief help, slowly showing more velocity while dropping a hammer of curveball in his last outing. While there is a long way to go, watching him Monday was a reminder how good he had been during that 2013 run.

– None of the depth starters have really separated themselves, with Brian Johnson, Henry Owens, Kyle Kendrick, and Roenis Elias all failing to take advantage of the opportunity with the regular starters easing into their Grapefruit League action.

Red Sox notebook: Hanley Ramirez still in World Baseball Classic holding pattern; Chris Sale won’t dive into Boston College hoop speculation after throwing simulated game

03.01.17 at 1:24 pm ET
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Hanley Ramirez (Kim Klement/USA Today Sports)

Hanley Ramirez (Kim Klement/USA Today Sports)

FORT MYERS, Fla. — Hanley Ramirez is slated to leave Red Sox camp Friday. But, according to manager John Farrell, there is still going to be some check-ups to be done before he heads for the World Baseball Classic (if he heads to the World Baseball Classic).

Ramirez still hasn’t played first base in spring training after experiencing some stiffness in his right shoulder. The discomfort has left the slugger’s status with Team Dominican Republic up in the air, with the initial plan for him to share first base duties with Carlos Santana for Moises Alou’s club.

“It would be safe to say that if no improvements or ramping up of the throwing program the next 24 to 48 hours, additional testing is going to be needed at that point,” Farrell told reporters before the Sox’ game against the Orioles in Sarasota. “As of today, no revelations in any way.”

The manager added, “If his role with Team Dominican is to DH, he’s doing that now. What we need to do is, if in fact he goes, we’ve got to continue to be corresponding with their medical staff as best possible to make sure that work is being done and that there’s some increase at some point of the throwing program. Hanley’s aware of this. In our planning, he’s not solely a DH. So we’ve got to get his throwing program ramped up. We’ve got a month remaining. Right now we don’t feel like there’s anything structural there. If in the coming days that doesn’t start to turn, we’ve got to go through some additional testing.”

When asked Tuesday by WEEI.com if he was planning on going to the WBC, Ramirez said “Yeah, why not?”

— Back at JetBlue Park, the news of the day was Chris Sale throwing his two-inning simulated game.

Facing hitters Dan Butler and Steve Selsky, Sale tossed 38 pitches. Perhaps most impressive was the lefty’s ability to own the inside part of the plate against both batters, a staple for the southpaw.

“I think I was ready on Dec. 7. I’ve been preparing for this,” Sale said. “I feel good. Everything is going as planned and it’s just a building process. Every day is a new day and try to build on what you did the previous day.”

After the outing, Sale talked again about his familiarity with these spring training surroundings, having gone to school at nearby Florida Gulf Coast University, while still living in the area. Just last week, he organized a gathering with teammates to attend an FCGU men’s basketball game.

The one question Sale steered clear of, however, was that of asking for a scouting report of “the next BC’s next basketball coach” current FCGU head man Joe Dooley.

“I can’t. I like to stay in my lane and that’s the next street over,” Sale said with a laugh.

— Starting Thursday, all of the perceived candidates for the Red Sox starting rotation will start throwing in Grapefruit League, with Eduardo Rodriguez getting the nod for Thursday’s game against Tampa Bay at JetBlue Park. Rick Porcello is starting against the Braves in Orlando Friday, with David Price going against Atlanta at home Sunday. Sale will make his spring training debut Monday in West Palm Beach vs. the Astros.

— Jackie Bradley Jr., who didn’t make the trip to Sarasota, took some questions on our Facebook Live account …

David Price can’t understand why Major League Baseball is warning him about his wind-up

02.28.17 at 2:10 pm ET
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David Price (Jasen Vinlove/USA Today Sports)

David Price (Jasen Vinlove/USA Today Sports)

FORT MYERS, Fla. — After his two-inning simulated game Tuesday, David Price had little interest in rehashing last season. “I don’t look at last year … I’m focused on 2017.”

Then, when asked about his wind-up (which he abandoned for a brief stint at the end of last season), Price added, “That’s my only wind-up. That’s the way I’ve done it for a long time. That’s what feels natural to me.”

But while the pitcher is moving on to the new season without intending to turn things upside down, the umpires might not be letting him keep the status quo.

According to Price, the MLB Player’s Association has already given him the head’s up that MLB umpires have him in their cross-hairs.

MLBPA special assistant Kevin Slowey recently informed Price that umpires are evidently uncomfortable with the way the lefty sets up when in the wind-up or stretch, suggesting there might be too much deception.

“It’s the same wind-up I’ve had for the last seven years. There’s never been a red flag or anything,” Price told WEEI.com. “There’s definitely a distinct difference between my wind-up and my stretch. He just told me I need to tell the umpire whenever I have a runner on third base, if I’m going from the wind-up or from the stretch.

“I guess they say there’s not a distinct difference, which is false.”

Price pointed out there are multiple pitchers who have replicated his somewhat side-saddle wind-up since he implemented it in 2009, including teammate Drew Pomeranz. And, up until now, it had never been a problem.

“Mine is a distinct difference,” he said. “I’m set at a 45-degree angle whenever I’m in the wind-up. My hands are in the glove and my hands are down here. Whenever I’m in the stretch it’s straight at home plate, my glove is up here and my hands are on my leg. I don’t understand.”

Why hasn’t Josh Rutledge been playing? Blame his left knee

02.28.17 at 1:20 pm ET
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Josh Rutledge (Jasen Vinlove/USA Today Sports)

Josh Rutledge (Jasen Vinlove/USA Today Sports)

FORT MYERS, Fla. — Josh Rutledge is very much in the Red Sox plans this season. If Pablo Sandoval has any issues hitting against left-handed pitching, it’s the Rule 5 pick who is most likely the fail-safe.

But for a fourth straight game, Rutledge wasn’t in the lineup. Instead, the infielder could be found on the conditioning field behind JetBlue Park late Tuesday morning running under the watchful eye of the Sox’ training staff.

It turns out there has been a bit of an issue with Rutledge’s surgically-repaired left knee.

“After the first game I had some swelling in the tendons and we were trying to get that down before we ramped back up. Today I just got done running and it felt good,” Rutledge told WEEI.com. “They were saying there could have been some adhesions from the surgery that could cause the swelling. That usually heals quick. It’s actually a good thing opposed to getting tendonitis.

“I wasn’t really nervous about it. I had a couple of things like that happen during the offseason. Not really setbacks, but you have to test it coming back and sometimes you overdue it a little bit. I think that’s what happened.”

Rutledge, who plans on being back in the lineup toward the end of the week, explained the issue that led to the surgery last August as a bone which was knifing into his patellar tendon. (“They said it was like a shark’s tooth cutting into the tendon,” he said.)

Full recovery, according to Rutledge’s doctors, is usually 8-9 months, which explains the occasional bumps the road along the lines of the one he recently ran into.

“I’m not going to harm it anymore. Like the adhesions said very normal,” Rutledge said. “It’s all kind of expected.”

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