That’s because the sox are a average team, now with there best offensive player in bay gone what will they do now? Well Lackey is not a elite pitcher. Of his 12 wins last year he beat 3 teams with a winning record, and has a losing record in the playoffs. So why is everybody so excited about this bum. Javier Vasquex of the yankees will have a better year then lackey. To compare lackey to greinke , garza, or verlander is a joke he isn’t in there league.

Garza is especially nasty for some reason against the good teams and not as good against the others. I think motivation has to be an issue. He’s complained about the fans of Tampa before.

“That’s because the sox are a average team, now with there best offensive player in bay gone what will they do now?”

Bay had some better numbers,but I think Youk was our best and most CONSISTENT hitter on the team..If it werent for a suspension and only playing 136 games, he wouldve come closer if not passed Bay in some categories..he(Youk) has more hits in 20 less games played and more 2 baggers..Add 16 more games to Youks stats and I think its a lot closer..OH, and that gold glove caliber 1b play helps too..I still wonder why everyone thinks Bay was such a hitting machine..yeah ,he hit a few more bombs, but lost his way for 2 MONTHS during the season..hes a streaky power hitter that strikes out a ton and can be fooled everytime on a good curve/slider low and outside…not worth more that what Youk is making..Im not bashing Bay..Hes a class act..have fun in Citifield next year…

Sox are an Average team? Put the Crack pipe down. Last year they tied for third best winning percentage in all of baseball while playing in the AL East. 2nd in OBP third in runs scored, the only place they were “average” was team ERA which it appears they have made some efforts to address. Last year the Sox werent one of their “all time best” so in that sence they were an Average Sox team. But take a tour around MLB, and you’ll find at least 20 teams that would be taking about the team for years if they had the year the 2009 Sox had. Considering all the upgrades around the feild and with the addition of starting depth its hard to imagine the Sox arent a better team. Lackey may not be an “Ace” but he’s our number 3 starter at best? Voice of Reason…are you Kidding me?

“Javier Vasquex of the yankees will have a better year then lackey”

Based on what exactly?! Last Season VasqueZ was pitching against some pretty soft offenses. It’s ridiculous to think he can repeat his 09 performance in the AL East. If you want to know what to expect, look at his ChiSox numbers and regress it from there. Sorry, he’s definitely a good pitcher, but he already failed there once, and the division is tougher now. Plus he’s older.

I stand corrected lackey won 11 games, of those 11 games he beat 3 teams with a winning record. As for Bay he did have some bad weeks during the season, but still was second in all of baseball hitting with runners in scoring position. Javier Vasquex ERA last year was under 3, much better then lackey era , well its the national league, so what lackey did was get 8 of his wins againest losing teams. So you paid a guy 15 million dollars a year to beat up on baltimore and oakland. I guess lackey isn’t any older then last year. plus coming off a injury, he is damaged goods, why else would the angels not even offer him a contract.

what people don’t seem to ever mention is that there will be so much more pressure on the sox pitching to limit runs because they don’t have a lineup that will score alot of runs for there pitchers. Last year they were a terrible road team as far as scoring runs. The yankees don’t have as much pressure on the pitchers side because they can score alot more runs because of there lineup. Pitching and defense does not win championships, its part of it you need to score runs. Just ask the braves who had 3 hall of fame pitchers in a 10 year span and won one title, and yes the yankees beat them too. The sox are counting on a washed up cameron, to replace bay he won’t come close to his numbers and neither will beltre match lowells numbers.

Maybe I’m missing something, but isn’ 15-10 better than 16-12? And isn’t ERA a marginalized stat in that context?

Don’t know if its better the sox don’t believe in stats. The way theo comes up with this stuff , next week jd drew is better then ted williams. Based on some dumb ass theory he chooses to go by. Lets see how youk does with no bay in the lineup. We all saw what big papi did with manny out of the lineup, like a old washed up bum. As far as what kind of year the sox had they were swept out of the playoffs by a team everybody said had no chance, they had there number. Lets not forget the sox finished 8 games behind the yankees, and the yankee are improved over last years team .More starting depth, Granderson who will hit more homers then drew & ellsbury combined. He comes # 28

JR;
Youk is Youk..hes a pure hitter and doesnt NEED jason Bay to hit good..thats a ridiculous statement..I just took a look at Camerons stats and hes far from “washed up”..and I really dont think that Granderson,gardner and Nick Johnson are an upgrade over Damon and matsui…The sox FO uses both sabermetrics and scouting to evaluate players..a good mix of both cause you really cant rely on 1 or the other…Have a little more faith in the team..stop drinkin the haterade bro…its gonna be a good year…

your right. it will be a good year for the yankees

According to some around here the Yankees were only 8 games better than an average team last year. Maybe with their changes they are a “good” team.

maybe you should start puffing on the pipe yourself, They are without there best run producer in homers & RBI’s in jason bay. Who is going to give you those homers & RBI’s ? J.D who? Or mike cameron? What world are you talking about when you say that Granderson, Gardner, and nick johnson are not a upgrade over Matsui, and damon. In the Red sox world they play no defense, so they are no good, but in the yankees eyes, they were old and didn’t play in the field well enough to stay. They will be missed offensively, no doubt. Granderson is a very good outfielder with very good skills on offense. Nick Johnson is a OBP machine. Gardner is young and a very good outfielder, not much offense yet in his game. Granderson will have a better year then any of the sox outfielders. So do you believe Drew is a good player or average based on what you see or what they tell you ? What i see is a guy that is so over payed, So overrated, and has no passion for the game. He is injured every other 3 weeks. This guy is a bum

i think voice of reason is really a Yankees fan he does not know what he is talking about saying Vasquez is better than lackey you better go look what he did last time he pitched in al not pretty i think the sox will have a better team than last year with that pitching and defense and to say there average you need to get a clue

you think the voice of reason is a yankee fan? So what did Lackey do that impressed anybody last year? Win 11 games and lose 8. Or that of those 11 wins he won 3 games againest a team with a winning record. Never said Vasquex was better then lackey, said he would have a better year. Remember the red sox will always be second fiddle to the yankees and that’s a fact nobody can argue. The yankees are the team of the decade.

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