Great, now we have insulted another good Red Sox player with a bad offer. I agree with Victor. He is deserving of a 3-4 year deal. Are we already looking at another “Bridge Year” in 2011? And they offer this deal before Tuesday’s game? I guess the front office gave up before the nation did. This is very disappointing to know that the front office quit on the team before this series was decided.

Two years , Theo is unbelievable. what’s the word frugal, or cheap b**tard

We gave up a very good pitcher for him (Justin Masterson, who we now want back), and have no catcher of the future among our prospects, but we can’t swing a three or four year deal? Salty better be a stud.

The grass is always greener…

I think the money that would be given to martinez would be better off being spent on a few more retreads,( I’m sure there are a few more out there besides the ones the red sox have). Years ago it was said if you played for the sox(under yawkey), you had a job for life, and you could retire there, now it seems that if you played anywhere you can retire with the sox. With every good move he’s made . Theo throws up 5 or 6 bad ones, I realize this year can’t be blamed on him. It seems every guy that’s proven themselves in a sox uniform has gotten a slap in the face from the front office, now it’s martinez,next he’ll be insulting D-mac,and offer manny a blockbuster deal(again). Sorry, but i’m in a bitchy mood after last night’s game.totaly dissapointed about going down in flames. I just don’t want to get into the “wait till next year” syndrome again

Can’t argue with this offer. He still thinks of himself as a catcher, but can the Sox think he will be catching in three years? It might happen, but more likely he’s a DH/backup 1B. Can they find a better value for that slot? Probably. A year and a half with the club doesn’t mean he is entitled to a retirement package. The early offer says they are ready to start shopping if he requires a bigger package.

They give Lackey and Beckett big money and then slap this guy in the face, what a joke. No wonder nobody will sign with the Sox. Beltre is gone and it looks like V-mart is gone too. And the 2011 season is gone too.

Victor deserves a three year offer as a starting point. What catchers, worth more than serving as a back-up. are going to be available on the market. We need him. I would trade Papelbon and Ellsbury. We need some good middle relievers to round out the pitching staff. They were the most deficient item this year and cost us a number of games. Our offense wasn’t weak and with Youkilis and Pedroia coming back, we’ll be stronger.

I agree with John Proctor re: Martinez and a three year deal to start, but certainly no longer than four. I would hold off on Ellsbury for another year and see what develops. I do think we could get some pitching help by trading Papelbon. We can have Bard fill his role.

Everyone just needs to calm down and stop the complaining. This is just a first offer. Doesn’t everyone realize that most of the negotiating is out of the media. And honestly, do we want this guy to catch full time for more than 2 years? Face it, it’s time for some new faces. That’s what free agency is all about. The nation does not need to worry, so stop the b’in!!

There are no catchers out there who hit as well as Victor Martinez who cost us the great Justin Masterson so Sox better play fair with Victor and not make their usual mess of negotiations except for the Cy Young candidates Lackey and Beckett.

The one biggest issue this team needs to address in the offseason is the bullpen. Papelbon should be used for a trade. For someone with such attitude and who believes he should have Rivera money he is not worth it. A few good years and he thinks he belongs in the HOF just belies his self serving attitude. With so much money coming off the books this team should be able to remake itself for 2011 and not look like the Triple A team that they continue to run out there night after night.

Why do people still defend J.D Drew? He is one of the most overpaid players in the game. He’ isn’t even in the top four in the american league east. Yet they will try and low ball V-mart. The Red sox are turning into the Royals. When they lose V-mart, Beltre, and have to play all these AAA players they will turn into the Royals.

Justin Masterson is not great

This is the beginning of negotiations, not the Sox final offer. I think he should get a 3 year deal….but we’ll see.

Victor should start working on his throwing arm, for he can’t throw anyone out. B.J. Upton is 36 and 0 in stolen bases against the sox. Move Victor to 1st base, Youk back over to third base. Trade Dice K, retire Tim give him his gold watch, move Bard to closer, we need bullpen help. Theo has alot of work to do.

4 year deal will seal it @ 12-14 mil a year. Bonus if he hits 300–and bonus if he hits over 30 homers

If Victor Martinez isn’t with the Red Sox in 2011 who will catch, who will play 1B and who will consistently come up to bat and work as hard as he does. His average tells it all and it’s an insult not to offer him more than a minimal contract. I know the Red Sox organization likes to keep their payroll lean but come on it’s all about winning or at least that’s what I thought baseball was all about. But noooooooo it’s all about the money.

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