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Peter Gammons talks playoffs and Red Sox on the Big Show 10.01.10 at 9:00 pm ET
By Albert Vontz

With the end of the regular season approaching, Peter Gammons of the MLB Network and NESN joined the Big Show to discuss the upcoming playoffs, the changes the Red Sox have to make in the offseason, and the retirement of Mike Lowell.

Following are some highlights from the conversation. To hear the interview, visit The Big Show audio on demand page. Click here for the interview.

On a season of injuries for Red Sox:

If you take [Jacoby] Ellsbury, [Dustin] Pedroia, Victor Martinez and [Kevin] Youkilis, you probably have the best front four in baseball. They were together eight times all year. But there were other factors. The fact that their pitchers have a 4.99 ERA besides [Clay] Buchholz and [Jon] Lester, there’s blame there. … I never realized how important Okajima was to this team until they didn’t have him. …

I have no idea where they are going to go. I think the number of options that they have from here, there’s like ten scenarios, and I don’t know where they’ll go.

On how the Sox will proceed with David Ortiz:

I think they will pick [David Ortiz' option] up because I know they are really worried that if they don’t he’s going to be hitting against right-handed pitchers in either New York or Tampa, and I think that’s a tough thing to swallow. Now, he may not be happy about them picking up the one year … [but] he did sign the contract. I understand where he’s coming from and what he’s given to this franchise but that’s the luck of the draw.

On whether free agent Adrian Beltre might be back:

I think that’s going to be a very tough signing. I find Beltre a really compelling guy. He plays so hard. Now he’s at the point where he won’t tell them when he’s hurt because he’s afraid that they’ll make him sit down. Beltre just plays so hard all the time. I love the thing when on breaking balls he drops to one knee and hits the balls into the seats.

He has to be comfortable. He was really comfortable in Los Angeles and he’s really comfortable here. He was uncomfortable in Seattle. If he ends up in Detroit — which I think might be a stopping point for him — how comfortable is he going to be there? Very bad ballpark for him. It will be very interesting to see how he and [agent Scott Boras] come to this.

Could Adam Dunn end up in New York?

Adam is so adamant about not wanting to DH, I don’t think he’s going to have any choice. I really don’t. The Nationals are putting up a great front because people love him and he’s a great guy. They’re not going to sign him because they don’t know where to play him in the field. I can see that. He’s a big on-base guy. I could see the Yankees doing it. But the other problem there is, if you bring him in as the DH, what do you do with [Jorge] Posada?

On Carl Crawford’s free agent destination:

I’ll be fascinated by the Crawford thing. Everybody assumes he’s going to go to the Angels. I’m not so sure. First of all, [Angels owner] Arte Moreno isn’t always great with free agents. Arte likes to kind of do business, ‘OK, this is what I’ll pay you and that’s that.’

Crawford would like to move from being a leadoff guy to being a third hitter. He’d like to win batting titles. He likes this ballpark. This will be an interesting situation. If the Red Sox went to him, and said, ‘You’re going to play left field. Ellsbury is still going to be leading off. He’ll do more running. You only have to run 40 times a year and hit line drives all over the ballpark.’ That’s an intriguing guy.

On whether he thinks it more likely that the Sox pursue free agent Carl Crawford of Jayson Werth this offseason:

I think Crawford. I think. It’s clear that they believe in 2012 that [Ryan] Kalish is going to become a really good player in right field. And I buy that, I think he’s going to become a tremendous player. He’s going to hit, and I love the whole Darin Erstad, Grady Sizemore personality that he brings to a team. I was amazed — he walked in here and all the veteran players were like ‘Great, this is better than a trade, we brought up Ryan Kalish,’ which speaks volumes about who he is, what he is, the way he plays. I’m sure he’ll play at least half the season next year in Triple-A, but he’s the one guy who’s come up and made quite an impression.

Who are the contenders in the playoffs this year?

I think the shift has started to the National League. The best young players are in the National League. I think the best two postseason teams are Philadelphia and San Francisco. … Don’t underestimate the fact that the Giants’ ERA is the best in one month since May 1968 and that the three main guys [Matt] Cain, [Tim] Lincecum, and [Madison] Bumgarner are 12-1 with an ERA of about 1.20 in September, even better than Halladay, Oswalt and Cole Hamels.

I still think it’s going to be Minnesota [coming out of the American League]. They’ve got to get their pitching back. [Francisco] Liriano has had three bad starts in a row. The Yankees have lost  nine consecutive starts by opposing left-handers. If the Yankees play the Twins, who they usually have beaten, Liriano and [Brian] Duensing have to come up big.

On John Lackey’s struggles for Boston:

I think he should be better than this. He’s been OK. But it’s not just like they found a few holes. His stuff has not been as crisp. He’s been durable but his stuff hasn’t been as good as it was in Anaheim. I don’t think that that consistency he showed last year using both his off-speed pitches and his fastball was there this year. But it’s also different being here. Maybe his father-in-law is upset at him because he’s not winning all his games for the Red Sox. He has had a couple of arm problems and it will be interesting to see how he comes out next year. … In his case, it is how does he get his velocity back? In Beckett’s case, it’s how do I get my arrogance back?

Does Daisuke Matsuzaka come back:

I think they might trade him. Because his contract is not bad and he can pitch in the National League. Let’s say they lose Victor Martinez and Beltre, I can see them trading Daisuke for Carlos Beltran and putting him in left field. I think Beltran will come back and have a monster year. The Mets would love to do that if they have a general manager by Opening Day. I think there are a number of places he can be traded to. The Dodgers, Seattle. Of course, he may end up in court if he gets traded to the Dodgers.

On Mike Lowell’s retirement and legacy:

One of the most popular players in my time covering here. The number of people every day who come up and say, ‘I really love Mike Lowell,’ it’s great. He won two World Series rings, which means two more World Series rings than Ted Williams. He had great years in 2003 for the Marlins and 2007 for the Red Sox. He knocked in, what, 120 and 110 runs in those two years. He’s been a really good player, he’s played hurt and never recovered from the hip. It’s a nice thing to leave the game, or your job, and be that respected and that well-liked. I don’t think we’ll have anything to worry about Mike Lowell losing his money. He got hurt and he kept trying to play, but there was nothing he could do.

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  • Al Volo

    HOW MUCH MONEY DOES A TEAM MAKE FROM THE MEDIA, etc., FOR GOING TO THE WORLD SERIES?

    It appears that the Yankees have figured out that they will get their money back when they pay whatever they have to for the players who will take them to the post season.

    The Red Sox owners don’t have the same sense as the Yankees owners.
    I’ve never heard anyone bring this out. Can’t anybody figure it out?

    Epstein is not the boy wonder that he is made up to be.
    He keeps getting guys who have seen better days.
    He doesn’t know when to cut loose the has-beens.
    The owners keep us in bondage to obsolete contracts
    rather than absorbing the cost of doing business and
    cutting loose dead wood, freeing us up to get real talent.

    The post season teams seem to have mostly young guys reaching the peak of their careers.

  • Relax

    Al..what are you talking about? You can’t compare any team in the majors to the Yankees when it comes to resources. Why do Sox fans continue to think that any team can. Let it go dude. And, this isn’t the NFL. You can’t “cut loose the deadwood” and free up money. And who on the team counts as deadwood to you? Seriously..think about these things before you post.

  • missyae

    Beltran’s ship has sailed. They would be better off signing BOTH Crawford and Werth to replace Victor and Beltre’s hitting in case they lose both, which is highly likely. If they take a shot on Brandon Webb then trade Matsuzaka in a package for a catcher like Napoli or Ianetta. If you trade him and do sign Webb, you better have Kelly or another high risk, low cost, pitcher signed in case Webb falters. Should be an interesting off season. I think Fielder is also a possiblity for Matsuzaka if you add players on each side.

  • Al Volo

    Relax,

    Deadwood: Varitek, Ortiz [not a complete package for a DH anymore], Matsuzaka, Wakefield; and now Pap is on a yearly decline.

    When you make a bad investment, you need to liquidate it, even at a loss – eat it, and re-tool for production. When you run a business that is not making a profit, doing more of the same is not going to get you profitable.

    The winning teams usually have four sluggers that are hitting .290-.310 and maybe one guy batting in the cellar. Let’s face it… our pitching failed us this year. We’ve got two good starters. I suspect that Becket is taking pain killers that are dulling his senses. Atchison and Bard are all we got worthy for the bull pen.

  • T Cal

    Beltre, Varitek, Matsuzaka, Pap, Wakefield, Martinez gone. Should be gone, Ortiz. Needs, bullpen help, right field, left field, and true power hitter.

  • TimDogg

    Scott Atchison sucks.

  • D. Delaney

    Al,

    When you say things like: “The Red Sox owners don’t have the same sense as the Yankees owners.” And: “The winning teams usually have four sluggers that are hitting .290-.310 …” I’m not sure you really know what you’re talking about.

    First off, AVG isn’t a good measure of a hitter. But since you mentioned it, the Yankees only have two .290-.310 hitters: Cano (.314 AVG) and Swisher (.289 AVG). The Rays also have only two: Carl Crawford (.308) and Evan Longoria (.294). Tampa doesn’t have another hitter with an AVG better than .266.

    Regarding the Yankees having more sense than the Red Sox, let’s look at some of their big money investments. Alex Rodriguez made $32 million this year and hit .272 AVG/.342 OBP/.514 (.856 OPS) with poor defense. He’s already 35-years old, declining, and is owed $174 million and is under contract until 2017 (he’ll make $20 million in the final year of the contract–when he’s 42!). Then there’s the 36-year old Derek Jeter, who hit .268 AVG/.338 OBP/.369 SLG (.707 OPS) and can’t field his position. Jeter’s contract is up after this season. Theo would likely let a player like that walk. The Yankees will probably pay him. Is that sensible? How good was Teixeira for the $23.5 million New York is paying? Teix is hitting .259 AVG/.367 OBP/.487 SLG (.854 OPS) this year. That’s not awful, but he certainly isn’t worth the money. By the way, Teixeira is a .231 AVG/.322 OBP/.417 SLG (.738 OPS) hitter away from the Bronx this year. Basically for $23.5 million, Teixeira is an all-star at home and Bill Hall on the road. Hey, I haven’t even mentioned AJ Burnett.

    It’s fine to criticize the Sox if you want. But I wouldn’t use the Yankees as an example of a model franchise.

    The main problem with this year’s Red Sox was injuries and a bad bullpen. Only one of those problems was the GM’s fault.

  • http://quinnmedia.blogspot.com TheOmnipotentQ

    I must correct Mr. Gammons. Mike Lowell has three World Series rings. He got one in New York in 1998, as he played eight games there that September.

  • StuAndrews

    Extremely poor short term and long term planning means we have a team just a few games out of first place..i.e. not much better than Toronto and a lot worse than many teams with 1/2 the payroll. The Genius THEO might want to re-examine his metrics for measuring talent. His metrics have deliever, JD Drew, Lackey, Beckett, DiceK, Scuturo and all of his errors, Cameron-over the hill player with little pop, a bull pen that is among the worst in baseball; and many of his best players will be gone at the end of this season.

  • jason bay

    The Red Sox fans are use to excuses they had them for 86 years remember. You can’t ever compare the Red Sox to the Yankees they will do what ever it takes to give them self a chance to win, example the yankees had the best record in baseball at the time they still went out and got Kerry Wood and Lance Berkman. The Sox who by the way cried all year about injuries, but yet still had a chance to win and there great GM did nothing, nothing to help his team. How is that for commitment to winning. That is why they will always be a second class organization. They give Mike Lowell his own day, but yet they tried to discard him like old laundry, what a bunch of phonies.

  • jason bay

    That’s a great name Relax, now you can relax and watch some real teams compete for a championship

  • jason bay

    How could anybody sit there and complain about what the Yankees pay their players, The Sox have some of the worst contracts in baseball, Beckett and Slackey both not worth half the money they got and JD who, is in the last year of a contract that paid him 14 million a year. Beltre will be gone. Ortiz will cry unless he gets a muti-year deal so he could be gone. Martinez will get offers all over the place for a long term deal so he could be gone. Remember the Sox only give long term deals to pitchers who can’t pitch

  • Emilio Useche

    I liked the 2010 Sox team. When they were together (all minus Ellsbury), they were ½ game behind the Yankees but, once they lost half of their team and the replacements didn’t produce enough to keep the pace, they were not a threat for the Yankees/Rays. I hear a lot of people saying that the Sox should let Big Papi go but, although he’ll be 35 and had an awful April, his numbers are similar or better that the ones of Teixeira, Adrian Gonzalez, or Vladimir Guerrero; with three at bats less, he has more HRs and A-Rod. Victor has more RBS than any other catcher although he missed a whole month. If the Sox keep Big Papi, Victor and Beltré, trade for another power hitter, let Kalish take over Drew’s position and add Ellsbury, Pedroia and Youkilis, they will rule the AL East.

  • Babe Ruth

    The only thing they will rule is the biggest cry babies. They will have a worst year then this year. Beckett sucks and Slackey does too, they will lose Beltre, Martinez, and unless they give Ortiz a muti-year deal he will cry all year. They need a whole knew bullpen, Papelbum is a bum was the worst closer in the league this team is going backwards

  • Mike

    I don’t agree with Gammons on Ortiz. I really don’t think the Sox are quaking in their boots at the thoughts of Ortiz DHing for the Yanks or Rays. 30 HR’s in 162 games? That’s 1 HR every 5+ games. The Sox play the Yanks/Rays 18 times. At most, that means that Ortiz could hit 3-4 HR’s against the Sox in the year long series for one of the teams. It’s meaningless. I hardly think 3-4 HR’s over a year are going to send shock waves throughout Fenway.
    If they only pick up his current option, without extending him, he’ll be pissed and it will reflect in his play—-or lack thereof, as evidenced by his torturous first half. If they extend him, they’ll eat it–if the past two years is any indication. I say let him go.

  • Mike

    Now for Boy Blunder. I think Theo’s got to go—and I’m not that thrilled with Tito either. I’ve got the thing about “defensive indifference” and his “best Bud” approach with his players. A bit of a hard ass at times goes a long way for managers and coaches. How would the Pats do if Belichick became
    best pals with his players? Back to Theo. He’s blown an awful lot of John Henry’s $$$ on nothing. As for the vaunted minor league system, it’s all in Theo’s mind. Other than Eglesias(?), I don’t see anyone even remotely ready to step in and be a GOOD everyday player. Kalish, reckless, and Bowden don’t give me a warm feeling.

  • jason bay

    There minor league system is filled with 250 hitters, just what the sox need. As far as Ortiz The Yankees don’t want him. But they will take Jason Werth, and Cliff Lee, and the Sox will have Mike Cameron and JD Drew

  • Kyle N.

    Whats with you people? We’ve won 2 world Series since 2004, what on Earth are you complaining about? Theo is such an idiot huh? How many World Series did they win in 86 years before he got there? Same with Francona. The players love and play hard for him, that’s all that really matters. Have some of Theo’s contracts been bad? Yes. Same with the Yankees. All you turds probably complained about the Berkman trade, how did that work out? Had he come to Boston and sucked you scumbags would still complain and cry about trading prospects for him.

    Be real, you can’t win every year. This year was a transition, and they actually over performed where they weren’t suppose to and underperformed were they were suppose to excel. If Pap blows only half those games, Lackey and Beckett have normal seasons, there is a very good chance they are in the post season, and that’s not even counting the injuries to three of their best players!

    Retool, reload, and get ready for next season. I’m glad we didn’t trade any real prospects for some schmuck that would of cost money and might not have had a major impact. 2011 will be better, chill out.

  • wes

    Heres what the Sox need to do this offseason:
    First, Crawford is the #1 priority. SIGN HIM THEO! hes becoming a power player and with fenways short left field he’ll do amazing, also he plays the wall very well and both him and ellsbury will be the most feared duo in baseball. Werth is old and is represented by Boras which means he’ll get WAAAAYYY to much money.
    Second, sign a Dontrelle Willis or a type B starter for low to medium money and trade dice-K to Mil for The Prince, then lock up prine for about 3-4 years with good money(hes a young lefty who will destroy in Boston)
    If all goes well and Theo opens up his wallet a little this year our pitching will be tremendous and our line-up should be deep and powerful enough to compete with the Yankees because that is really the ultimate goal for the Sox.

    Possible Red Sox line-up nxt season:
    1.- Jacoby Ellsbury (CF)
    2.- Dustin Pedroia (2B)
    3.- Carl Crawford (LF)
    4.- Kevin Youkilis (3B)
    5.- Prince Fielder (1B)
    6.- David Ortiz (DH)
    7.- J.D. Drew (RF)
    8.- Jarod Saltallamachia (C)
    9.- Marco Scutaro (SS)

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