I feel alot better about the losses of Damon, P. Martinez, and O. Cabrera considering that they netted Clay Bucholtz,Ellsbury, Lowrie and Bard!.I would pat Theo on the back except these results are more about good scouting and good luck.It does help explain why Theo is so ga ga about draft picks.

They got two things when they let Type A guys walk. They got the draft picks PLUS the saved money to spend on another free agent.

Here is how it works: let Beltre and Martinez walk…use the money you would have spent on them on let’s say Werth and Dunn PLUS get two (gain 4 lose two) extra draft picks (moving UP in the draft). Not every draft pick or free agent signing is guarenteed but having cheap young players (Bard, Bucholtz, etc) gives you lots of flexibility. THEO is the genius, not Joe from Burger King. Oh BTW, remember how upset you all were when the Sox let Jason Bay walk and signed Beltre. I will enjoy watching Ells, Bard, and Bucholtz pitch and remember 2007 while you all cry about losing Pedro, Damon, and Lowe and say “look at what he did”. Move away from the painting…IT’S A MONET idiots.

“A genius??? Don’t you mean idiot, he is going to let two of the best players the Sox had last year for draft picks that might pan out??”

Theos track record on draft picks speaks for itself. When he lets players go, it seems to me he gets something in return. Sometimes thats what you have to do in order to build a strong farm system, which they really didnt have before the arrival of Henry & Co.

“And i think the Sox with all there injuries and problems were still in the race and this guy let the team rot on the vine and did nothing. Not the work of a genius.”

What did you want him to do, give up top prospects for a 3 month rental (scott downs)? They made a bid on Kerry Wood but once again the yanks swept in and took him. Thats just the way it is. Im glad he didnt give up the farm. Theres too much that went wrong in 2010 to put the blame on 1 thing. Beckett and Lackey didnt have good years along with drew. Paps had a down year too.Add in all the injuries and it becomes a lot more than 1 problem to fix. If they got that 1 bullpen arm, would it have made up for everything else? the answer is no.Sometimes the best moves are the ones not made.

“so now they have a catcher who can’t even throw the ball back to the pitcher!!!!!”

Salty has a condition in his arm called thoracic outlet syndrome. hers what it says it is… a group of disorders that occur when the blood vessels or nerves in the thoracic outlet — the space between the collarbone and first rib — become compressed. This can cause pain in the shoulders and neck and numbness in the fingers….Now Salty did catch last year and I saw no signs of any issues.

Im glad some over emotional fans arent the Gm’s of this team….

We have been hearing how great the farm system is , so where were they last year? Darnell McDonald? Bill Hall?

Are you kidding me? Do you think those guys were from the sox farm system? You are clearly the idiot and not Theo.

Lets see how the best moves are the ones they didn;t make Beltre& V-Mart

VMart not signing was about ecomnomics. Theo places a dollar value on a player and won’t exceed it. He knows that he woudl have got VMART the catcher for 2 years 28m and 2 years VMART the DH/1B for the 2nd 2 years at 14m. Thats what the positions and the bat are worth and he offered 4 years 42m! We have Salty and 2 prospects in the system (Adalberto Ibarra who defected from Cuba and Luis Exposito who is a possible 5 tool player)

As for Beltre, he has had 2 great years… Both contract years… Theo isn’t gonna offer him the years that someone else will over pay. The guy is inconsistent at best and yes he did have an MVP caliber year last year but he doesn’t have the track record to back it up and Theo is cautious with that stuff.

Not a good point at all Jason. You’re very short sighted. Ryan Kalish and Daniel Bard are not exactly off the “scrap pile”. The other fellows they picked up allowed them to continue to progress as planned. Were it not for injuries (which ought to be obvious…but apparently escapes your limited grasp)even Kalish would have been kept at Pawtucket longer. Helps to have a plan and at least TRY to stick to it. But we can all see you haven’t any idea of that. Baseball ADHD or ADD perhaps?

Puting a “$$ value on a player and not exceeding it” is arrogant and stupid. The market place and the times dictate what a player is worth. Not a GM. If V Martinez had been aggressivly pursued a month after coming here,the cost would look like peanuts today.Same thing for Jason Bay. Neither had anything to prove.If any management teams drag their feet on decision making, they will pay more in the end.

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