Cry me a river, Arte. Go head and keep your lunch money- and enjoy watching your team finish below .500 again!! Haha!
Watch how a real team like the Red Sox operate, you might learn a thing or two. Until then, keep your mouth shut, loser.

Teams in every sport need to take a page out of the Patriots playbook and concentrate on there own team and stop speeking about others.

sounds like sour grapes but he does have a point with this crazy money for thes guys. Werth and Crawford are not worth the entire payroll of some teams.

As Bellicheck said “When you win say nothing. When you lose say even less!”

There is a critical mass on the Sox that means that no one player has to carry the team.

Moreno is a class guy and a class owner and should be listened to. The Red Sox will be certainly be a great team on the field this year, but I must wonder what effect all their expensive signings will have on the team in the future? What kind of team will a bankrupt (or nearly so) Red Sox be?

The Red Sox already have the highest ticket prices in baseball and the fewest number of seats. I guess they’ll raise their prices again expecting the fans to pay and pay and pay. Sorry, Red Sox fans, you lose.

In Reply to Russ:

John Henry and Co. are no where near being bankrupt, do I know this for a fact, no but they are very smart people in that company, the Red Sox have a lot of contracts coming off the books worth about 50 Million Dollars, and the Red Sox pay roll should be about 10 Million less than it was last year, so the Red Sox are actually doing very well compared to last year financially.

This is the same ownership group that thought Manny’s contract at $20 mil per year was far too much. I like crawford but if they are payiong crawford 142 mil whats A-gon going to get? Plus why do they constantly dick over their own free agents like they are the Little Sisters of the poor?

I have to agre with John. This team is not and will very likely never suffer financially. You cant just look at the team as revenue, look at concessions, advertising in a huge market, other businesses, NESN (in itself is an enormous source of revenue) and market share across the country..they dont call it Red Sox nation for nothing. I havent mentioned ticket prices..this is a team that almost always sells out, good or bad. The owner was very wealthy to begin with, I’m pretty sure they’ll be fine for years to come.

shut up already all the angels do is complain complain and then complain again
bunch of big babies

Wants to keep all of his profits in his pocket. Untill his profits go down angels we be in last place

Hey Russ:
You seem like the type that complains when a team just stands there and does nothing. Then complains when they go out and get arguably the two best players available via free agency and trade. Sox fans are not losers.
Been one for 45 years……………….. Had its ups and downs,./////// but would not trade it for anything

NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO MAKE A FORMAL OFFER ?!!? BS!
Sounds like sour grapes to me! Moreno, shut your hole!

The red soxs bank is almost as big as the yankee’s

While I agree that it is a lot to pay, he needs to take ECON 101. The market dictates the price. Werth also isn’t worth that much but the market was set when he signed with the Nationals–for better or worse. Like in life, if you don’t like the market prices then you certainly have the option not to spend your money. You just shouldn’t criticize others who jump in. I don’t think a BMW is worth the price so I bought an Accord. Why would I criticize my neighbor who decides he wants to overpay for a car? It’s not my money.

If you don’t like the market highs then sit on the sidelines until prices come down to where you want to buy.

Moreno has really let that team slide.He has plenty of money but won’t buy free aqents, other then Tori Hunter.

Don’t forget that the group that owns the red sox also owns a decent soccer team. Soccer teams make bank

WE (Angel Fans) ARE SOOOOOOOOOOO SCREWED !!!!!

The Angels will be fine and play…. not buy…. themselves a Championship. I love watching the big money players go belly up along with the teams that fall for the hype. Angels have been guilty of it too but I enjoy seeing the Angel farm players come up and kick ass on the primadonnas.

Of course he’s saying that. He’s frustrated, his team’s screwed up on every major free agent they’ve wanted not named Hunter (or Gary Matthews Jr hahaha). Have fun finishing behind Texas and Oakland Arte!

There is no crying in baseball arte.

Arte’s not crying, but stating the facts that are obvious to the sane people in baseball. $142 mil is alot for one player, who hasn’t been able to hit 20 HR at any time in his career.
I seem to remember that since Arte bought the team they have won alot of division titles and a world series. He hasn’t let the team slide and has kept the average ticket at $20,and kept beer and parking prices low – seems to me that he cares about the fans and isn’t that what this game is all about? Don’t look know, but you guys are starting to resemble the Yankees in the way you rationalize spending to win, and I’m a Mass. native and have always loved the Sox.

A sports franchise is a toy, not just a business! Yes you need to make payroll and cover your expenses, but most folks that buy, is because they have more money than they know what to do with and like the power and adulation of owning a team. So any one who is an owner deserves all the praise or scorn heaped on them.

From the Sox prospective, all I care is that they win, good farm, FA it’s all part of it. Art when you bought it for under 200mil it was a toy, still is just maybe too rich for your blood? Time to sell… The Sox waited forever for a guy who knew how to make a buck and win, don’t be-grudge us the winning!

All I heard before FA period started was how the Angels would be aggressive and match any offer for Carl Crawford…The Angels were the first team to meet with Crawford and his agent, that’s a fact…So I’d like to know why the Angels did not at the very least give there best offer…This is not the draft Mr. Moreno where you “interview” potentail players…Your baseball people should not have left Crawford’s Houston Texas home without a deal done PERIOD!

In recent years, Moreno has let Rodriguez, Figgins, Matsui, Glaus, Cabrera,Ecstein,and Benjie Molina get away,among others.Except for Tori Hunter,he hasn’t brought in much. It has to frustrating to Scocia, who I wish we had in Boston.

don’t forget texeira and lackey

Well,they may have done themselves a favor by letting Lackey go. Tex was out of their price range. If they can’t sign Beltre, they should sign Glaus for 3rd,Edmonds to platoon with Rivera in left,Cabrera to replace Aybar at short, Eckstein to back up the infield, Molina to back up catching,and either Thome or Damon as DH with Napoli catching,but Dh’ng against left handers.Finnally, Soriano as closer with Downs pitching the 8th.Many of those ex Angels could be had cheaply. The biggest investment would be Soriano.If there is anything left over,Gregg for more bullpen depth.This would be a pretty good team.

Gotta agree with Scott that this is no longer a working stiff’s team, that is, that the average guy can afford to go to a game.

That being said, either you compete with the Yanks under the rules as drawn or you don’t.

I prefer the rules be redrawn, but if there are not enuf votes for that outcome, I prefer that someone takes the Yanks on, and I’m glad Henry, Lucchino, Warner, Theo are gutsy enuf to do that.

So he didn’t jump on signing Carl like the Sox did. Maybe they should learn how to play the free agency game.

I don’t think the Red Sox and John Henry in particular will have problems with future revenue. He owns a soccer team, a NASCAR team and baseball team. Not too mention his own financial company…Henry and his partners do a great job in generating revenue.Of course, ee, the fans, pay a price for that..Moreno should worry about his own team that might be lucky to finish 3rd.

The Red Sox knew what they were doing this off season, they had a lot of money come off the books this year and even more so next year with Papi and Nancy Drew gone. Relax, we waited a long time for an off season like this. Let’s just try to enjoy it.

Remember which ownership won not (1) but (2) world series titles!!

Russ,
Don’t follow baseball much do you. The Sox don’t have the smallest park in baseball. Actually, it’s the A’s. Last year, they closed off the upper deck for baseball, making smaller than Fenway. You must be one of the late arriver/earlier leavers, of whom we saw so many at the Big A.

First off someone please explain to me how the Sox are “Buying” a championship. Should they spend money like the Pirates or Marlins and just hope they get lucky against the Yankees? You can’t fault the ownership group for caring enough about this team and it’s fans to open their wallets enough to bring in quality players.

Second they didn’t overpay for Crawford and they won’t overpay for A Gon either because Crawford and A Gon will more then pay for their contracts in the revenue the return to the owners. Arte Moreno and all the sudden Sox haters out their are just mad that our team was decisive enough to get the deal done first.

Third the reason the seats are more expensive than other places is Econ 101 as well. “Supply and Demand”. We have less seats and more demand for the seats so the price reflects this. The owners have proposed the idea of a new park however we (the fans) want no part of that. So they have done their best to add more seats. People around the rest of the country just don’t get it though, the Sox owners could add 50,000 seats to Fenway and they would still sell out because we are the most dedicated fan base in the country. If the Sox owners lowered the tickets prices the scalpers would just raise them. You might as well have the profit going into the team instead of some scumbag in a back alley’s pocket. Also correction to Icebe the Sox don’t sell out most games, they sell out every game for the last 631 games in a row.

Last, to James I also like watching my team’s farm system develop into great players. Maybe you’ve heard of some of them. Their names are Lester, Buchholz, Bard, Pedroia, Youkilis, Lowrie, Ellsbury……maybe if your team complimented their farm guys with some free agents and trades they would finish above .500 this year. Only way I see that happening is if they go and “buy” Beltre and Soriano. hahahaha 70 mil for a guy who the Sox got for 8 last year? Sounds like a good solid investment.

“Scott Says:

December 18th, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Arte’s not crying, but stating the facts that are obvious to the sane people in baseball. $142 mil is alot for one player, who hasn’t been able to hit 20 HR at any time in his career.”

Scott,
You need to learn that home runs are nice but not really integral to player evaluations. And for those that say $142 m. is a lot of money, you are correct but this is a 7 year contract. So to say that is equal or more to some team’s payrolls is comparing apples to oranges so not really helpful or germaine. The Red Sox can spend more because they have put together a better product that folks are willing to spend more to see. It is called business…

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