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Reaction to the Collapse: Red Sox take stock of biggest September swoon ever 09.29.11 at 3:59 am ET
By Alex Speier

Catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia was one of many Red Sox who found it hard to process the shocking end of the season. (AP)

BALTIMORE — An air of despondency settled upon the visitor’s clubhouse after the Red Sox suffered a 4-3, walkoff loss to the Orioles, and then entered the clubhouse to watch as the Rays celebrated their own 8-7, 12-inning walkoff victory over the Yankees. Here is a sampling of postgame reaction in the aftermath of the Sox concluding the largest September collapse in baseball history.

GM THEO EPSTEIN

“This is one for the ages, isn’t it? What was going on with those two games, how poorly we played in September. We can’t sugarcoat this, this is awful. We did it to ourselves, and put ourselves in a position for a crazy night like this to end our season. It shouldn’t have been this way. … 7-20 in September, we go 9-18, we’re where we want to be. 9-18 is what, winning a third of your games? The worst teams in baseball win a third of their games. There’s no excuse, we did this to ourselves.”

“When you have the kind of month that we have, as it develops, you worry that you’re not going to accomplish your goals. We sure didn’t.”

“We got off to a bad start, 2-10, it was 81-42, and then September happened. 7-20. It’s impossible to explain, huge disappointment. We have no one to blame but ourselves. We did this to ourselves.”

“We don’t have any excuses, things went wrong from an injury standpoint, luck or fate or whatever you have it, but the overriding factor was just poor play. We did it to ourselves, we have no excuses. We’ll have time to dissect it going forward, right now it’s just nasty disappointment, obviously.”

MANAGER TERRY FRANCONA

“I don’t know how to evaluate it. Every time you lose, it hurts. When you go home before you’re ready, it hurts. As tough as it’s been this last month, we weren’t ready to go home. You want to go home when you dictate. Not when somebody makes you. It’s extremely disappointing.”

“I guess we regret we got ourselves in this situation. I don’t think we view it like that. You try to play every game and stay in the moment and not let those things get away from you. What we did two weeks ago wasn’t going to help us tonight. They’re may be a time to talk about it, I don’t know. I don’t know if I have a real great view right now.”

LEFT FIELDER CARL CRAWFORD

“I don’t think I’ve ever been a part of something like this. This is a devastating blow to us. We go down in history as one of the worst collapses ever. It definitely doesn’t feel good to be a part of that.”

CATCHER (AND CAPTAIN) JASON VARITEK

On where this ranks among his most painful moments with the Sox: “I don’t know how you can put this in the middle of anything. There isn’t probably a person in this locker room who doesn’t feel like absolute crap. … This is pretty numbing. I don’t know really how to explain it more than just numb.”

“We did it as a team. You can’t point your finger at any one thing, in my opinion. We had days we didn’t swing the bats so well, days we didn’t pitch so well, days we didn’t play good defense and days we did all the above real well and didn’t win. … I don’t think right now there’s a reason to point any fingers. We as players didn’t get our job done.”

“There’s been a lot of crazy different situations that have gone on, from the baseball element of it. From pitching to defense to timely hitting to a mix of all the above. I think that it wasn’t from lack of effort. I’ll tell you that much.”

SECOND BASEMAN DUSTIN PEDROIA

“I’m heartbroken, man. Played my butt off for 100 and whatever games. So, that’s about it. … It’s devastating man. That’s basically it. I don’t have anything else for you.”

“This sucks. You work hard the whole offseason, you work hard the whole year to be a good team. And then now we’re one of those teams that don’t get a chance to accomplish our goals. It’s devastating man.”

FIRST BASEMAN ADRIAN GONZALEZ

“It was a season that we had a really good chance and just didn’t get it done. That’s something to use as, I guess, motivation for next year.”

On the cause of the collapse: “Definitely injuries. You have [Clay] Buchholz in the rotation, just that one guy. Daisuke [Matsuzaka], you have him in the rotation all year long, that’s 10 more victories. We probably win the division. Having [Kevin Youkilis] in the lineup the last month. It’s always injuries. Any team that doesn’t make the playoffs and is supposed to, it’s because of injuries. Plain and simple.”

DESIGNATED HITTER DAVID ORTIZ

On how this compares to the end of the 2003 season: “Not even close. Not even close to what happened to us in ’03. We walked into September nine games ahead, and look where we’re at right now. It can’t go no worse than that. This is worse. I never put any attention to where we’re at. … But at one point, I was like, ‘Wait a minute – we walked into September nine games ahead.’ Wow. It doesn’t matter what anybody here does. That’s going to stay in your head. That’s not a situation you want to be facing, but you learn from that.”

On what he can say to the fans: “Nothing I can say, right now. not too much to say. Everybody knows it all. … At the moment, I can’t really talk too much. … It’s horrible, man. Horrible.”

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  • geets

    You forgot to add Gonzo’s “God didn’t have it in His plan comment”…what a joke. This guy could care less, because it’s all in His hands!! Newsflash Gonzo, God could care less about the Boston Red Sox, if He did he would have struck this team down with lightning before last night to save us all from the embarrasment of watching you losers!

  • James

    Really. It’s our fault. We as Red Sox Nation have been spoiled. We expect our team to win every game and make the playoffs every year. We casually follow them during the middle of the season and then complain when things don’t work out in September.

    This team had some major distractions, bad timing with injuries, and poor support from the farm system.

    When they walked Gonzo and didn’t have Youk to protect him, how do you think that was going to go that final game? Clay could have been a difference maker too.

    It seems like the home grown players preform better in general over the people we buy and bring in. There are some exceptions (Becket during odd year seasons and Gonzo) but look at the contracts of Rentaria, Lugo, Drew, Lackey, Dice K, and Crawford. The Sox could overcome these problems if they had more polished players in the farm system. Growing up in the Red Sox system prepares you for playing in the Red Sox market.

    In closing, I hope we keep Terry Francona. These past two years have not been ideal but he’s done well for what he’s had to deal with. What team do you know starts off 2-10 and comes one game away from the playoffs?

    Ownership needs to look at the whole picture here. They need to modify their business plan and adapt to the changes. Other teams have caught up to the Bill Beane numbers game. We need to evolve or we will be doomed to fail.

  • Joe

    Hey Adrian – How about taking some responsibility for the fact that you guys SUCKED when it mattered…injuries?

  • jnc1241

    HA HA HA HA!!! REd Sox suck! So does WEEI the guys in afternoon last week were saying “Rays have to play flawless baseball. Theyre never gonna over take Sox.” Worst collapse, worst sports show on worst sports channel in history.LMAO Clowns

  • http://cnnsi Ron Kimball

    Told you so……………… the curse of the pigeons exists………..Yankees up 7-0 Papelbon one out away after blowing away first 2 hitters………………7-20 September……………Devil Rays one out away with 2 strikes pinch hit home run………….

    Boston in first place Sept 1 and THEY DID NOT WIN ONE SERIES THE WHOLE MONTH…………in baseball there are all little ways to win games and series and they did not win one series………….against last place teams middle tams and good teams it did not matter they lost and lost and lost…………..really bad karma man………………

    No other team yells Yankees suck every game in the stands no matter who they are playing……….
    No other team’s owner calls another team evil empire……………no other team prints tee shirts with Yankees suck or worse………….. and certainly no other team makes a commercial with pigeons $@%!$@%! on another teams uniforms hats and insignia…………….and the commercial had to be sanctioned by the team as it aired on NESN Boston’s flagship station……………and in today’s world of tweeting and email every Red Sox player and Yankee player had to know about the commercial as friends and family of theirs bound to see it and comment…………….certainly all the Red Sox players as when they are out of town their families watch NESN all the time……………

    All the other Boston teams….Patriots Bruins and Celtics respect the game and their opponents….
    Not the Red Sox they are low class disrespectful and uns-sportsman like

    Even in their greatest glory of 2004 it was not enough to celebrate but they took away from their own accomplishment by saying the Yankees choked…………well you can’t have both a great comeback and in the same series the other team choked………has to be one or the other

    So the Red Sox got exactly what they deserved……………..I noticed Girardi never called on Rivera Robertson or Soriano for one out…………nor did he play his best lineups against Tampa……………

    So the Sox got just exactly what they deserve as the lowest class organization in sports. No matter the year or the situation or whether they have success or failure their true colors always show through and out comes the envious inferiority complex about the Yankees………….

    You watch…………in the face of the worst collapse in history by a preseason favorite they will blame Girardi for resting players for the playoffs or the Orioles for playing hard……..or injuries………..

    Look in the mirror Red Sox Nation and you will see a low class organization that does not respect their opponent or the game………….and all the misery that befalls you is well deserved……..

    No other team in baseball pulls low class stunts like the banana republic that calls itself a nation….

    The Yankees enter the playoffs against good teams 2 teams who won almost the same amount of games 97 96 95 and a team in Tampa on a great run………….If the Yankees get beat I will say the other team deserved to win and the Yankees respect their opponents….. they are all good teams……

    win or lose I can accept it…………….A Red Sox free playoffs is a great feeling……may the best team win…………but the Sox don’t deserve a thing especially trying to back into playoffs at 7-20

    Low class, cocky, and loudmouth belligerents humbled to eat crow and the infamy of the worst collapse ever……………….the best part…………… it is well deserved…………priceless………..

  • jimbo

    Ron, if you read your last paragraph, the first part seems to describe you. The 2nd part is an outright lie. The worst collapse ever was your 2004 Yankees blowing the ALCS to the Sox. As you said, it was well deserved and priceless. Go back to Yankee land.

  • Anguillaman

    I guess GONZO is right about this the only way the Sox could have won is with GOD”S help, particularly with Crawford in left and Wake and Lackey in the rotation…..and Beckett and Lester coughing up losses in big games.

  • jnc1241

    Lol. Its killing em Ron.Its Killing em. Jimbos living in the past.

  • DonM

    As not-a-Red-Sox fan, there is some pleasure gained by having them miss the playoffs. I’m sure the arrogance of the team added a touch of inspiration for teams like the Orioles. Every team has injuries, every team has a few meltdowns every season. The Sox just lost. And if they fire the manager as a result, get ready to count the number of teams who will queue up to sign him.

  • pablo cruise

    ha ha sox suck- these are the sox i remembered from the good old days=love to see this

  • dan

    Ron, where did you learn to write? Why so many periods between sentences? Are you special?

  • Rob

    Good job by the Red Sox! Hey remember back in January they were proclaimed “Best Team Ever!” LMAO. Have fun with Carl Crawford for another 6 years as he begins to lose a step (his whole game is built around speed). Also i think Lackey is locked in for another 4 years LOL…. good times to be a Red Sox fan right now.

  • Bubba

    Why does everyone want to burn the house down? I don’t get it. One really very, very bad month and a pitching staff that really missed Buchholz and we want to trash it all and start from scratch??? Makes no sense at all. I will tell you this: fire Epstein and Francona and they will have new jobs in about 5 minutes. And the Sox will miss the playoffs for many years afterward.

    But having said that, something painful has to be done with both Lackey and Crawford. Neither one could play in this town before the collapse, and now they’ve forever branded themselves Losers. Lackey in particular may never mentally recover if he stays in this town. Dumping them both for next to nothing is going to be a bitter pill for the Sox management to swallow, but it needs to happen.

  • PhilPlantier

    A very unlikable team. Out of shape, overpaid millionaire, spoiled, entitled. It actually looks good on them & I am a longtime fan.

    Ortiz pissed off about an RBI being taken away in August. Very individualistic. Jackasses like out of shape Texas Toughguy Josh Beckett. Jon Papelbon blowing it in a huge game again. Looking for the big payday. Hopefully it aint from the Sox. Get rid of this clown.

    And everyones favorite, John Lackey. Theo deserves blame, Tito deserves blame & all of this unlikable team of players. Absolutely disgusting collapse & we are starting to hear tghe injury excuse already. Adrian Gonzalez is not doing himself any favours with his comments. Unbelievable.

  • pablo cruise

    The Curse is back after a 7 year hiatus-sweet and lovely-80 years of crap!!!

  • Don

    Well, you are probably right. The Yankees of 2004 had the series right in their hands, they lost 4 out of 7 games to lose the series, but how does losing 20 out of 27 to be eliminated after a 9 1/2 game lead rank????

  • pablo cruise

    Oh yea, beantown gets crushed

  • Wayn Goodman

    Ron Kimball, your rant is the definition of poor winning… leave the Red Sox alone in their misery. I am a proud supporter of the Red Sox and am personally tired of hearing Yankees fans gloat arrogantly. If you read MLB posts, you’ll rarely find as much arrogance as from the Yankee crowd.

    No team is perfect, and I’m devastated at how the Red Sox slid away in September, but when I read your comments I’m reminded of how much they look like how most of the world feels about Yankees fans.

    Good luck in the playoffs – ironically, you’d have been much better off playing the Sox in the ALCS than the Rays (if it comes to that) but you’ve been beaten by struggling underdogs before, right? (if you have a mental block, think ’04)

    GO PHILLIES ! ! !

  • PhilPlantier

    And keeping on throwing Tim Wakefield out there to try and get his 200 win when it was evident he was done was another mistake.

    And now Wakefield is talking about coming back because “ the fans deserve to see this.“ Please Wakefield, who do you think you are. This guy doesn`t deserve the record. As much of a clown as Roger Clemens is, Wakefield cant hold his jockstrap.

  • mike sacco

    The fact is,the Rays earned it and the Sox have turned into the old “buy the pennant” Yankees.There were pitchers out there. The Yanks got the most out of theirs and Theo did a terrible job of evaluating talent and character.I AM A SOX FAN so don’t give me any Yankee lover crap.Who is spending wisely now that both teams have very,very deep pockets?

  • pablo cruise

    let the curse begin again-YES

  • pablo cruise

    Red Sox Nation-what nation, they are a regional team

  • Wayn Goodman

    C’mon, Phil – even though I agree that Wake should retire or move on, it takes more than a little luck, durability, and capability to get to 200… just because you’re pissed about the outcome of the season, don’t get on the Yank’s ‘beat-down parade’ wagon.

    And I agree w/all the comments about teams lining up for Theo & Tito (if it comes to that) and how bad an idea that would be for the Sox. I’d add Paps to that list – think what you want about him (and I’m not thinking too many good thoughts right now either) but he IS one of the best closers in the game, and if he goes two things will happen: one, the Sox will have trouble filling his place (Bard? Please… right) AND two, any number of teams (maybe even the Yanks, if the almighty MoRivera EVER retires) will pony up the bucks to grab onto that arm.

    The Sox slammed themselves in September, and I wish no one had ever made the spring training claims (kinda like Joe Castiglione’s regular comments about ‘nothing good ever comes from walking the leadoff man’ with a different twist) but the season’s over for them and it’s a shame.

    No one who’s a REAL fan of baseball can dispute the playing abilities of players like Ellsbury, Pedroia and Scutaro, and to see them shorted of the chance to be in the October fun is just sad…

  • Don

    I can tell you one thing, even though I am a Yankee fan for many years,I really got no enjoyment out of watching Tito and their fans get their hearts ripped out night after night.It was painful to watch. Well maybe you Yankee haters will get some joy soon, because I really don’t think the Yankees are going very far anyway. Too old, thats what the Sox and Yanks are. I would really welcome the day, when both clubs stop signing any free agent to one up each other and give younger kids a chance. New York and Boston share a common identity. You have to be tough and accountable to play in these cities and if your not, stay away.

  • Wayn Goodman

    Pablo, go to any Yankees game OUTSIDE of the worst borough in NY (which is a challenge, considering the competition) and count the Yankees fans.

    Now go do the same for the Sox – no contest

    I hope you get to the World Series, so the NL can sweep you back under the rug w/the other roaches

  • Wayn Goodman

    Don, thanks for the reality check… both teams ARE old and tired, and teams like the Rays and O’s (yes, I said O’s) could be the new tier of excellence.

    You do have to be tough and accountable… and the Sox players have just signed on for a long, cold winter.

  • Depressed Sox Fan

    As much as I hate to say it, I think a lot of this is Theo’s fault. It was clear _last_ year that pitching was the problem. Last year’s “bridge” team was fine offensively. Sure, losing two starting pitchers this season was painful, but Buckholtz and Dice-K had a history of injuries. Beckett and Lackey certainly showed weaknesses in previous seasons. This could have been anticipated. Frankly, the Red Sox were lucky Beckett pitched as well as he did for as long as he did.

    To pay so much for and commit so many years to Crawford when Crawford has never hit particularly well at Fenway made no sense under the circumstances. Maybe there was no one else worth pursuing. But that doesn’t make a bad investment any better. You didn’t have to spend it all in one year, Theo. You could have waited.

    Frankly, I feel sorry for Crawford. All of the ballpark-effect arguments in favor of Gonzalez worked in reverse for him. Maybe that’s why Crawford bulked up over the off-season. Of course, this backfired. After changing his body so much, he lost his touch at the plate. Massive strength changes can ruin finesse. Same thing happened to Tiger Woods.

    Season before last, the acquisition of Lackey was roundly praised, just like the Crawford deal. But, other than a few big games, Lackey also had never played particularly well at Fenway. Lackey is a fierce competitor and a proud man. He deserves to pitch in a park better suited to him. I feel sorry for him as well.

    Theo and his staff are supposed to be great at sabermetrics, but the simple analysis of the history of players at Fenway seems to escape them.

    I hate to say it, but the Rays are a better-managed team. If I wasn’t from MA, I’d probably root for them. They are contenders nearly every year in the toughest division in baseball with a miniscule budget.

    Cashman seems to have learned from them. He had a very Tampa Bay off-season, and was criticized for it. But it works better.

    Maybe John Henry can hire away the Tampa Bay front office….

  • http://weei jim griffin

    2012 Sox…future looks bleak!catcher..Salty & Tek-cant be any worse. 1st base…locked in with gonzi, slap hitter ala boggs and was hurt last two years, 2nd petey best player but has 2 many ups and downs but generally quite good, ss scutoro maybe 100 games always nagging injuries, lowry? could be really good if he could stay healthy!!!!! hasnt been healthy yet and is really no more than a platoon player, 3rd youk? wont play more then 120 games if a full time thirbaseman, aviles? no thanks! leftfield? stuck with thisclown for 6 more yrs, center ells for two then he’s in pinstripes, rf bring drew back? no ! reddick, at best a david murphy clone, kalish can he stay healthy, starters texas tough guy always nagging injuries, cy tired arm cant pitch more than 6 inning cant find the plate, lackey, will be the ace next yaer!!!!bucholz how healthy will he be? dice-k? nope wake hope not…. bullpen …paps tired of boston he’s gone, bard.. the bigger the prize the bigger the choke…wheeler jenks albers miller hill ???? see ya … manager… my own opinion! titos tired worn down and just plain sick of the fans, MEDIA, and all around bullshit…hope he walks on his own accord…epstein lets take a collection to get him out of town…let shawn-a-she {dan} be gm he’s smarter than any 3 other gms combined a true new age genius, and let john-don’t tape me- tomase be his ass-istant, he got a higher IQ than the average rock…..

  • Finally…

    Now that the Sox are done for the season let’s see how long it takes for the talking heads to pick up the Bruins! You know that local team that JUST WON THE STANLEY CUP?!?!?! I see them milking the Red Sox blame for another month or two until they can see spring training in their sights and then begin talking about that. Picking up on the B’s only when there is an unfortunate happening in the league or with the team. Just goes to show they know nothing about the sport of hockey and rather expose their incompetence they opt to avoid the topic all together! Thank God for XM radio!

  • zouki

    i look at bard and i see craig hansen. scary.

  • smitty

    red sox nation on vacation enjoy the beach in st.pete.

  • drdave

    Boy this is comical reading these posts.
    Gee Ron, you’re really upset about that hilarious commercial. I thought it was funny as hell. Just sportsmanship Ron. Nothin else. You need to RELAX!!
    All you idiots out there blaming everyone and everything. Where were you in August when the best record in the majors was by the Sox?? nobody had any questions or concerns then. All this crap about firing Tito. Its absurd. Theo should go for his free agent signings. But is this news to anyone?? Its been happening for years.
    The best comments were about Skankee fans arrogance. I live with it every day. I hear some of the worst excuses for losses, why the seats are empty, etc. Its funny as hell.
    The fact is the PLAYERS are responsible. They play the game. Very simple. Some suck and shouldnt be here. But thats with every team.
    So get a life, take some valium or whatever. The yanks wont last long.

  • http://weei.com Stever

    What do John Henry and the president have in common? Both are quickly realizing you cannot spend your way into prosperity. Dice-K, Lackey, and Crawford…don’t let the door hit you in the keister on the way out, time to re-evaluate, re-organize, and re-sign where appropriate.

  • old cape cod coach

    Take it from an old coach…human nature is a team’s tough opponent…if ya start a season thinking its gonna be easy, seasons like this happen, and fairly often……..seen this many times with teams in many sports , different levels……this wasn’t about injuries or personel., or the other teams……this team read their press clippings at the beginning of the season…….yup, thought they could throw their jocks on the field and win….maybe not even consciously, actually, it usually happens subconsciously…..hence, the bad start…….then, they recovered, and talent carried them for months, they reached for the light switch, and it was there……”ok, phew, we ARE who we thought we were, see, this IS gonna be easy”…….players, coaches, management all relaxed……then…..oops​…late season slide, lack of attention to details and fundamentals, lousy effort, bad base running…etc etc……..oh oh, whats happening to us, why isn’t it easy anymore…..they reach for the light switch again, this time it isn’t there, end of season.

  • Dean

    Time to look to the future. Most who experience a one time trauma (e.g. Yankees 2004) come back quickly. Those encountering a long time swoon (Red Sox 2011) have trouble ever bouncing back unless more drastic action is taken quickly. Her are some keys: Move Aceves to closer (he’s shutdown like Keith Foulke and a real gem); offer Papelbon a contract consistent with his skills (e.g. $8m per year/3yrs and let him fill any other role he wants); offer Ortiz one year and one year only even at his overpaid current rate, continue on a year to year basis or let him go; move Crawford to right and fill left with a young righthanded hitter; let Tek go; let Wake go in spite of our love for him; let Theo go and let Tito resign gracefully (i.e. “there just comes a time to move on” with respect showing he’s always welcome etc. – let him manage wherever he wants – it was crazy to hear people call in and say management should let him go with his gut – he was hired to go by the numbers, not his “gut” – he did it and it hurt badly in September); put Lackey in the bullpen as the long reliever or get rid of him if he complains – at best he should be No. 5; otherwise clean house and fill in the gaps by throwing money at all the mid level starters and relievers in the hope someone will pan out. Pay Jacoby whatever he wants! LOWER TICKET AND CONCESSION PRICES IMMEDIATELY !!!

  • joker

    Its funny, the sox choke like nobody ever has in september, and all the sox fans can talk about is 2004 and the Yankees. This guy Gonzo said the only reason the Sox lost was injuries, is this guy for real, how about the fact that you never showed up to play against Tampa and the Yankees. Nice stats against lousy teams, but the teams you needed to step up against you folded. Motivation for next year? where was that motivation this september? Every team has injuries so you suck it up and step it up, nobody cried more about injuries then the Sox. Tampa lost there best player for 35 games, Yankees lost A-Rod etc. This team had no leadership, no spine, and now no playoffs

  • ak

    If only the followed allah they would have won !!

  • http://none Cicero

    To me, it seems inconsistent to make such a big fuss about the Sox’s September collapse when so many of us before that were surprised by how well the team was playing in the face of three factors: the absence of two starting pitchers (Buchholz, Daisuke) from whom much was expected; a long-term injury to an important player (Youkilis); and the mediocre performance of so many of our pitchers, especially Lackey.
    To assign blame for the season as a whole, some look to Crawford. Why? Crawford hit .255 compared to last year’s leftfielders, who as a group batted a paltry .241. Much has been made of Craw’s propensity to strike out. The average number of games in which he fanned at least once was 80%, compared to last year’s leftfielders, who averaged 77%.
    I’ll get to the pitching as a cause for the September collapse in a moment. Right now I want to talk about this year’s catchers. As a group, they hit a measly .229, which compares very unfavorably to the .259 batted by last year’s backstops. In 2010, Victor Martinez led the way with a solid .302 BA and 20 homers, which includes a 15-day hitch on the disabled list. It was the poor hitting of our catchers that hurt the team’s offense the most. Crawford? Hey, everybody has an off season.
    During the 24-game end-of-season collapse, the Sox scored a lusty 143 runs, which averages to six tallies a game. From those 24 they shouldn’t have lost 19, but they did. The reason was mostly the starting pitching. Our starters lost 19 of the 24, with Lackey getting tagged with three losses and two no-decisions.
    That isn’t Carl Crawford’s fault, nor is it Terry Francona’s. Keep both, I say.

  • W.A.Bullard Jr.

    Hey what’s everybody yellin’,’bout? This Boston SuxSox normal ’04/’07 were weird departures,that’s all. This team is over paid, certainly over rated, heartless, gutless, and no character. the ’86 Sox were in it even t the last game Hurst kept’em in. The Texas Mafia is all hat and no cattle and “Dickless” ['scuse me DiceKay] is the guy with a gazillion pitches, no killer out pitch which means he doesn’t have any good pitches, and this is the Anmerican League where the batters cn hit junk and turn on a fast ball, if you don’t believe me as Tim Wakefield. Trade Crawford for a bent garbage can, the original disappearing man complete with neck tattoo, cn’t catch a ball much less hold onto it. Does that remind you of someone who just left recently? You spell character “NewYork Yankees”; I hate’em. You spell “Bums” Boston RedSox I love’em but their still bums.

  • Dan

    135 days before pitcher and catchers report. Go red sox!!!!! straight to xxxx.
    Fans box up you red sox memorabilla and send it to Lary Lucchino in protest to those over paid and under achieving stiffs.

  • Mike

    25+ players over the season. Other than Ellsbury, Ortiz, Pedroia, Gonzo, Lester, Aceves and Paps—what did the Sox get for their $160 MILLION?

  • Billy

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  • Joe

    This is not nearly as painful as the “86″ World Series….not even close. The reason why it seems so sicking… it was like have that dreaded disease and watching something you love so much get so bad. We will be over this in no time. I think everyone is forgetting the “86″. Come next spring the Red Sox will be the favorites for the “WS”.

  • Voice of reason

    I was originally neutral on the Red Sox-Yankee wars. I’m from the west coast but moved to Connecticut which seems to be Switzerland in this battle. That’s not quite right. Perhaps its what the Mason-Dixon line was in the Civil War. Here’s what I’ve observed: Yankee fans, for the most part, don’t bring up the subject much. This seems to be because most New Yorkers are not that interested in the baseball. Boston fans will meet anyone from the New York area and almost immediately say “Yankees suck”. Their anger, inferiority complex, and whiny nature makes them intolerable. They constantly complain about how much money the Yankees spend and then say nothing when Boston does the same thing. Hypocrites. Babies. Whiners. Losers.

  • Sam in CT

    Voice of Reason – you are absolutely correct. I’m a Yankee fan from CT and try to be classy..but the younger Sox fans get so arrogant when they’re doing well that it makes it hard not to enjoy when things go wrong for them. The Sox fans that have been around awhile have humility and they appreciate when the team does well. Actually, they are waiting for something to go wrong…lol Whereas the younger fans think they’re the “team to be reckoned with”. The Yanks have and always will be the team to beat. But there’s nothing wrong with that. The Sox do better when they are the underdogs…not the top dogs.

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