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GM Ben Cherington: Red Sox ‘unlikely’ to add major pieces before spring training 02.01.12 at 7:16 pm ET
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The Red Sox are unlikely to sign free agent starter Roy Oswalt. (AP)

WORCESTER — The Red Sox have been engaged in talks with any number of free agents throughout the offseason, and according to a team source, the team continues to talk to pitchers Roy Oswalt and Edwin Jackson. That said, Sox GM Ben Cherington said that he does not expect the team to add either pitcher in the coming days.

“We wouldn’t rule out adding a starter, but I think it’s unlikely at this point,” said Cherington. “I think we’re going to keep looking for ways to improve the team, including the pitching staff, but I wouldn’t expect any major changes between now and the [spring training] report date.”

Cherington is comfortable with that approach. While there are parts of the roster that remain undefined, and several jobs (the last two spots of the rotation, the division of labor at shortstop and right field, the roles in the bullpen) will be subject to spring training competitions, the Sox GM feels that his team is in good shape with the reporting date for pitchers and catchers now less than three weeks away.

“There’s elements we feel really good about and elements that we’d like to be stronger, just like any year,” said Cherington. “We think the lineup is, we hope, a pretty balanced lineup. We think we have some options with the bullpen. That can be a strength. We like the front of the rotation. We’re going to find out more about the end of the rotation in spring training and see which guys step up. That will be a big focus of spring training.”

The Sox roster will remain a work in progress throughout the spring, and indeed, it will likely continue to be reshaped throughout the season. Assuming that the Sox do not commit the needed salary to add a starter like Oswalt or Jackson, the Sox will have money available to have a measure of flexibility to make trades and address needs as they emerge during the season.

That formula worked spectacularly for the 2011 Cardinals, who were able to add a starting shortstop (Rafael Furcal), starting pitcher (Jackson) and relievers (Octavio Dotel and Marc Rzepcynski), all of whom ended up playing key roles in a late-season surge towards the World Series. While mindful of the success of St. Louis, however, Cherington cautioned that a team could not assume that it could replicate it.

“We know that teams evolve. We know that our team has evolved. That doesn’t mean you don’t want to go into spring training with every position perfect and the team filled out, because optimally you would. That’s never the case,” said Cherington. “This year, we do have some competition. We have some questions to answer. Hopefully we’ll get some of those answers in spring training. We may not get all of them answered in spring training. We may have more work to do as we get into the season, evaluate and see how guys respond. The roster may evolve over the course of the season, as has been the case with every team.

“The Cardinals are the obvious recent example of a team doing that, but you can’t count on that. You can’t count on that and end up in the same spot they did. All we can do, we have the guys we have now and we’ll keep looking for ways to add to that group and we don’t know when those opportunities are going to come.”

That said, Cherington does feel that a solid foundation exists for the 2012 Red Sox.

“We’re confident that the group we have has a chance to be really good,” said Cherington, “and we’ll do everything we can to add to that if there are opportunities.”

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  • 3rdPlaceOnPaper

    Hello 3rd Place… unless they get some pleasant surprises from Daniel Bard and whoever assumes the #5 spot. The starting rotation looks like a potential disaster on paper though, especially given Beckett’s inconsistency and Buccholz’s health. Neither are locks to be a true ace all season long.

  • S.O.C

    Dont sleep on Toronto, they are better. Sox are even worse than last year. I am guessing 4th. And they deserve it they way they approached this offseason. Dumb moves. Ortiz arbitration leads the way

  • Toothless

    Bridge year.

    Root canal year.

  • Anonymous

    the red sox rotation is fine. becket, lester, and buchholz, when on, are three of the best pitchers in the AL, given theyre pitching their best stuff. you have to remember that this is a team that’s built to score runs and sure having a stellar pitching staff is nice too but its not necessary. I also think that with the upgrades in the bullpen, he sox will have the options to use their bullpen in a 4th or 5th inning situation if necessary. call me an optimist but…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q54USQJSUOS5YOL3FIOXWLDVQY S B

    They will, however, be adding a new gorilla suit this spring.

  • ghost of fred lynn

    4th place! 

  • EarlSweatshirt

    The Cardinals had to trade Colby Rasmus for a few months of Edwin Jackson.  Now Colby might’ve underperformed, but his trade value was fairly high at the time of the deal.  Will the Red Sox actually be willing to part with their prospects at the deadline?  The Red Sox can fill needs with just money right now…why hope that the spaghetti sticks with the only contigency plan of trading prospects in a real seller’s market?   I just think it’s dumb to count on the top three staying healthy AND having two others step foward to give league average production.  What happened to the “there’s no such thing as a bad one year deal” talk?  The Red Sox can get a midrotation starter, coming off a good season, in his prime, for a relatively cheap on year contract.  Offering just $5-6m, after dealing Scutaro, is unacceptable to me.  If there isn’t another move before ST, the Scutaro deal is terrible and I hope the owners get booed trying to pimp out Fenway’s 100th bday on Opening Day.  The Ortiz arb offer is looking worse by the day…

  • Gibba1924

    All I can say is I bet They don’t drop the price of tickets, beer, hot dogs or a Baseball hat!! Gotta love how they all of a sudden they can’t afford … bet they don’t give two rats @$$e$$ that most people can’t afford to go to a game .. but guess what, it’s either don’t go or spend money you don’t have …. If they want to cheap out on the players and make us watch a sub par product on the field they should drop the price of tickets … but we all know that won’t happen!!!

    • Anonymous

      It’s’ good to see everyday fans realizing that Red Sox Nation got hosed this off season, with the Sox refusing to get the two good players they needed,while talking so much about what they wouldn’t do.. None the less,there are observers out there that are thrilled that the team was unwilling to improve,or increase payroll..

  • Michael

    Happy centennial Fenway!

    - punt -

  • Typical Boston Fan

    I have a magical idea!!! STOP COMPLAINING AND DON’T GO TO THE DAM GAMES!!!! Feed them money and all your complaining is useless.

    • Anonymous

      That’s a great idea,but only a fantasy. They will keep coming out. That’s why Henry can get away with doing nothing this off season. Cherington will continue to lower payroll. He is a new age Jamesion geek that believes in minor leaguers and “league average” players.

  • 2012 Red Sox

    Sox will be fine.. Acrves can be a strong #4 with a complete contest for #5 among 6-7 guys. Dice K may be back by All Star break and could prove to be a healthy hungry addition. With the defensive additions and way stronger bullpen the SOX will prove to be much stronger this year than last – throw Bobby V in the mix to drop the hammer and we are looking good gentlemen!

  • Jim

    Neither of these guys gets us out of 3rd place. We need a situation like 2002 when D lowe stepped up in his first year as a starter and won 20 games.Maybe Bard wins 15 and Dice-K comes back after the Allstar break and wins 5.

  • AL34

    If Young Ben goes into the season without picking up another starter this team is done. No guarantee that any of the top 3 will top 200 innings. There are no guarantees on Bard being a success story at the 4th spot. As far as the 5th spot they are hoping that someone emerges from all the team throwaways they picked up on the scrap heap. Its ashamed because if they had not gotten cheap in the offseason and picked up another solid pitcher they may have been okay.

  • Anonymous

    What is up with this management group? Is Ben trying to impress his bosses by being thrifty? Guess what, that horse has already left the barn. We’ve already spent tons on guys like Lackey and Crawford, and now were not going to finish the job and get a couple lower priced starters like Oswalt and Jackson? Guys, you can’t switch directions in the middle of a plan. We better get someone reliable or no playoffs for the Red Sox again.

    • Anonymous

      Their off season was a disgrace!. It’s one thing to not pay Papelbon 50 million, but to subtract  Bard from the pen and install him as a starter is dangerous. To let so many FA’s that could have helped is being stingy. They better be ready to spend next offseason.

  • Hank

    You’re all a lot of misguided, reactionary fools.  It really is amazing how short fans’ memories can be.  This team was one of the best in all of baseball prior to last year’s September collapse.  That was with Lackey pitching substandard all season.  Now Adrian’s shoulder is 100% and he has a year in the AL East under his belt.  The top three starters are healthy and motivated.  The bullpen is solid with Melancon and Bailey.  You still have huge run producers in Ortiz, Pedroia, Youk, and Ellsbury.  Most teams lack that kind of offense.  Remember when the Yankees were a laughing stock because they had Colon and Garcia in the rotation?  That worked out pretty well for them, didn’t it?  The Sox will very likely make the playoffs this year and they have the talent RIGHT NOW to win the division.  To say otherwise is simply ignorant.

    • WHITEY

      Hank, I am a diehard fan, but I think your assesment of their staff is a little short-sighted.  Yes Lester is a horse, but Beckett has been too inconsistent to rely on him, and Buchholz is a nice #3 when he stays healthy.  The 4 and 5 spots scare the hell out of me!!!  If you remember, the Sox put Bard in the pen because he failed as a starter…I really think they wont get much from Padilla, or any of the other “bargain basement” acqusitions.  They have a completely retooled bullpen, that is a big question mark.  I think Ells, Pedey, and Gonzo will put up solid numbers, but the other guys also scare me!! Papi is now another year older, Youk’s body is starting to fail him, and frigin Crawford is injured, and wont be able to prepare  like he normally would, missing the beginning of the season.  The have questions in right and at short, and Salty is just average.  God forbid they lose one of their “big 3″ to injury for an extended period,and they will be toast!!  They made a half-arse offer to Oswalt, and have no chance to land him!!  Again, I am a huge fan, but I am also a realist, so we will see what happens.  I am going into this season with no expectations, so I wont get a damn ulcer!

    • WHITEY

      To add to my comments.  Why is someone giving an opinion that you dont like ignorant??  First, the Yanks added two very solid pitchers, which in my OPINNION,gives them just as good, if not a better staff than the Sox.  Tampa arguably will have the best staff in the bigs this year. Also, the Al west is strong this year.  The 2nd place team in that division between Anaheim, and Texas will more than likely win the wildcard. he Al Central also got considerably stronger this year too!!  The Sox will need to win 92-95 games ths year to make the playoffs, and I hate to say that I dont think they have the horses to do that. I hope i’m wrong!!

      • Hank

        Well thought out, but misguided.  This offense is still as prolific as any in baseball.  Adrian is poised to put up even better numbers than last year.  Youk is actually very healthy for the first time in a while.  And when you consider the reclamation project acquisitions along with Bard and the return of Dice-K (who is way ahead of schedule), a solid 4 starter is certain to emerge.  All you really need from a 4 guy is 12 wins and a sub-5 ERA, which is very doable.  Oswalt is as much of a question mark as any of them.  The guy hasn’t pitched in the AL and he is hurt.  Why throw money at him?  They are better off waiting until the trade deadline when better talent might be available.  Losing a starter to injury would be a big problem, but you can say that about 90% of the teams in MLB.  Where would the Rangers have been last year sans C.J. Wilson?  Answer: not in the playoffs.  You need to remain healthy to win, period.  Not to mention MLB is likely going to add a second wild card sport this year.  The Sox will contend an probably make the playoffs.  Your opinion is incorrect.

        • WHITEY

          Why misguided?? Thats the beauty of an opinion, its just my thoughts that arnt set i stone obviously.  Your a bit misguided my friend. Do you really tink Dice-K will be the answer, when he arrives in July probably??  Dice-K has been below average for 2 years now.. You fail to look at the competitions 4 and 5 starters!  Do you think Tampa’s #4 and #5 will have era’s over 3, or low 4′s? Never gonna happen!!  How about the Yanks??  No there also!! Both of them have proven guys in those spots, compared to our situation.  So basically, the Sox competitors in the Al east have a significant advantage in starting pitching, not even mentioning the Anaheim,Texas,Detroit, and maybe even Chicago.. They need to win the Al east, as the wildcard will most likely come frm the west.  The Sox,Yanks, an Tampa will beat each other up too much for one of them to make the wildcard!! Believe me,i f the Sox are out of cash now, then where do the get the dough to make a trade??You sir need to realize that te Sox have significant issues!!

        • Anonymous

          To have any chance, they will need everything to fall into place.  Bard must win 15 games and pitch 180 innings.  Padilla must bounce back and win 12, while the front three must all match their best seasons.  Bailey will have to close to as good as Pap was,while Meloncan must match what Bard did.  RF should actually be better with Sweeney and Ross.  Adrian will have to get his HR totals over 40. Youkilis must match his normal season,while Ortiz must equal his last two. Ellsbury has to repeat last season. Everyone will have to stay healthy. LF is a black hole with CC being injured and no one to replace him. SS will be weak.The bench will be weak,because of the Scutaro give away and SS will be weak because of it….

      • Anonymous

        You are correct. Everyone got better and the Sox got worse. It may be another long drought before we see a WS team.

  • Lipper

    I agree that the Sox will finish in 3rd, if not 4th place and not make the playoffs, even with another wild card team!
    1st Skankees
    2nd Rays
    3rd Blue Jays
    4th Sox
    5th Orioles
    Hey Ben why not up the price to assure yourself we can get Jackson or Oswalt! Offer a 1yr deal between 6-8mil

  • Dano S

    It would be sweet one of these guys signed and the Super Bowl.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_Q54USQJSUOS5YOL3FIOXWLDVQY S B

    Now that Jackson has signed with Washington it is apparent that Boston will not be adding any pitching and will again be missing the playoffs.  

  • Derek

    I hate to say it, but I don’t have a good feeling about this team at all. I still think, if nothing else, they should’ve given Jon Garland a shot. Granted, he’s not gonna win 15 games, but he might give you 11 or 12 wins if he stays healthy. I have a feeling the sox are gonna end up giving Wake an invitation to spring training, and honestly he may be better than some of these other guys the sox are willing to give a shot. Maybe this is a bridge year, but next year, the sox better go after an impact arm. Or just rebuild now and trade away the pieces you can, like Youk and maybe Beckett.

  • reverend

    bard blows arm out by june. beckett 300 lbs by allstar break.  big pop out is off the juice. ellsbury will get caught on the roids. 5th place here we come

  • Kearao

    Robert5285

    Your said that in order for the sox to compete they pretty much have to have each player have a career year!! You are out of your mind. If each of the players have theyear that your saying is required for the to just compete, the sox would actually win 120 games.

    Its almost a given that both elsbury and papi will regress, but I think you could say its very likely that youk, crawford, and even gonzalez and salty will have better years than last, with pedroia likely to repeat his performance.

    The real question is our pitching. Can Melacon and Bailey pitch well in the al east?? Can becket and buch stay healthy?? Can Bard and/or aceves start??  All question marks, but remember we were the best team in baseball with no production from our 3,4, and 5th starters once buch went down. So worst case scenario is bard and aceves go bak to the pen(making it alot stronger than last year) piece work the 4th and 5th starters(no worse than lackey and dice k) and our offense should be slightly better.

    Therefore to sum it up, our season relies on the health of our players. Just like every other team.. Just think, where would the rays be without shields and price, or the yanks without CC??

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