I love it about how cocky he is….this is the guy for this team no matter what every big mouth says…he has forgotten more about baseball than you know so I won’t second guess him unless he pulls a grady little. If this was tito or any other manager we would be atleast 5 games below .500 since they would just leave a pitcher in and had given up some leads costing a few games along the way.

Go out and Pay  for a LEGIT #1 corner  since its obvious scheme is not working with current  crop of average db’s

When did the D line decide to treat Wilson like Manning. Lost containment so much

Ummm, douche bag, if the Pats got any advantage from knowing the defensive signals of the other team, it would show up when the Pats had the ball.  It doesn’t do anything for the Pats putrid defense.  But now that the defensive signal caller gets the call through the speaker in his helmet, and there are no signals to decode…the Pats still have the best offense in the league. 

How could this happen? I listen to weei all day and the shills oh I mean talk show hosts when they are not selling tent tickets or paying for inteviews and kissing a$s told me the pats can’t loose

Also Bill B has to prove he is the smartest person in the room. Every other coach in the nfl would have kicked the fg at the end of the first half but not the genious

YUCK!

That’s what I would do!  They can’t defend at all!!!

What went wrong?  According to Dennis & Callahan the Pats weren’t going to play a good quarterback for the rest of the year.  It would help if the Pats showed up for some of these games.  Big babies.   

I am so friggin’ (not the word I wanted to use) with this secondary and all EEI members defending them. If Bill is such a defensive mind why hasn’t he fixed. Perhaps a new secondary coach is needed? Another year wasted on an overhyped team. Brady was not good today but you can’t expect him and the offense to win every game for you. When will this secondary look for the ball? Brady’s time is running out; he deserves better Bill. Fix it now!

go for the goal with 6 seconds left til half on the 7… that is where they lost this game.

The Jets will destroy the weak Patriots defense…big win for the Jets next week…

Pressure, can you deal with it, can you execute in it. Can you focus on the things you need to do to win. Troy Brown could, Kevin Fault could, Brandon Loyd did.Whom do you count on in the end. Never let them go over the top with 2 minutes left, Catch the ball first,use as much clock as possible but play to win the game. We are a scared team in my opinion and not to smart. You have to do it, close out the competition, greats teams do it. Go to the hot hand, put the ball in playmakers hands. Think, we can’t let this rookie guy go over the top. Add a blitzer, make him get rid of it early. Another in a string of painfull losses when we are ahead,

Is it me or is Brady feeling pressure that isn’t there?  I remember 4 or 5 times this year where he essentially sacked himself.  Not good.

McCourty couldn’t cover Stephen Hawking…get him out…

i know they will. I’m just thinking the previous unthinkable that they could go 10 and 6. As we know, 11 and 5 doesn’t always cut it for a playoff berth. with the parity in our division and 3 losses at this early stage, definitely time to panic, Seahawks sent a clear message to the other teams, just hang around long enough, good things will happen.

It’s all friggin over, folks. We wasted this great offense and otherwise physical defense on the weakest link; secondary.  I don’t wanna hear anymore this crap about us “running the table.” Two more losses are a certainty. We may sneak in at the end with a wild card, but don’t count on it…. what was actually done to this aspect since last year? The secondary might have even played a little better through the first 6 games last year!

Have to chalk this one up as a fluke. There hasn’t been a legit loss all year- they really should be 6-0 with this cupcake schedule. They smacked Seattle up and down the field all day but uncharacertistically lacked the killer instinct in the red zone.

Their DBs suck, but that is not new. Flaccid, Eli Manning and now Wilson- chuck and duck gets it done against our crap secondary. Still, with the O firing an all cylinders and 2 defensive gamechangers in Hightower and Jones, they’re still well-positioned for a championship. There’s no team out there that can stop their offense and score enough points to win (our NFC West flukes notwithstanding :-)

I want whatever your on dude.  Did you watch the game today?

Chill out everyone. They have lost 3 games by a total if 4 points to decent teams. One was a missed kick, on was the replacement ref debacle week. Then today. I agree the secondary sucks and they news to do anything to fix it.

I took an Advil for a headache but otherwise I’m just high on life. I think it’s preferable to the cyanide pill you must be contemplating and the emotional, flushed, adolescent, pig-tailed 13 yo girl tenor of your comments with their “sky is falling” bs. Have the Patriots played ANYONE this year that’s looked better than them? Nope. Look at the supposed “elite” of the AFC right now- getting spanked by GB AT HOME!

Other than that I’d say the secondary is having a fine year overall

Seems like the pats have signed/drafted some Dbacks with promise. They start well and then fade badly(e.g. Devin McCoury, but h’s not the only one).  Is it coaching?  Who is the Pats DB coach?  Maybe they need a new one.

At which point do we stop putting all the blame on the players and start questioning the great defensive guru lol

It doesn’t seem to matter who you put back there it is awful and has been for years. That to me is scheme and coaching when you are consistently this bad

cant watch it anymore. How in the world does this defensive genius allow this to go on for this long? Scheme? Talent? Both? Dont care they need to atleast get a little bit better. BB is ruining this time when this team should be winning more champioships while Brady is still so darn good

Pathetic Secondary! Every time the opposing quarterback raises his arm to throw the football, my heart stops. I feel for the hard working defensive front line. 
BB needs to fix this problem pronto!

The pass defense has gotten worse every year for the last four years.

Where’s the defensive guru, Bill Belichek? His DBs don’t play the ball, are always out of position, and always get called for PI when battling a receiver for a ball.

There should be DB free agent auditons all week at Foxboro; it can’t get any worse. Or is BB going to go back to the incredibly soft zone type defense they played at the end of last year and hope they can stop teams in the Red Zone?

Disgusting.

Completely agree. Every time an opposing QB drops back, you know what’s coming: pass interference, blown coverage, or touchdown, and sometimes all three.

People expect the offense to constantly carry this pathetic secondary they can’t every single game!! Tom & the offense can’t have a perfect Sunday every game. This $hitty secondary is the down fall of the team and we can’t win without improvement from this back end. This falls on Belichick lap for this ongoing problem and getting worst!

During their first three Super Bowl wins, they were known more for their defense despite Tom Brady and co. on offense.  Something changed, obviously a lot of those players are gone, but something else, maybe it’s the scouting, the coaching… they gotta address it.

The losses of Crennel and Mangini years ago were understated. Failure to replace that kind of coaching talent and staying with the status quo the past few years despite evidence that it isn’t working is unacceptable.

Coaching staff needs to take heat for not changing things up as far as scheme and in game adjustments. It’s pretty obvious to the fans that the current cover 2 and vanilla zone type defenses do not work and will not work in these games. How many times does this type of loss need to happen before you realize that maybe we are doing something wrong here? The talent is along the DL and at the LB corps. These guys are playing their a$$es off and are getting zero help from the CBs or S. Time to utilize your strengths and stop being passive and reactive along the sidelines each week as teams complete pass after pass down the field against this joke of a secondary.

I’m at the point where I DVR games and start watching at 3x speed if the team is up by less than three scores in the 4th quarter.  A degree less painful to handle that way when the inevitable collapse occurs, plus I’ll have saved a bit of a time.

If the offense could get a first down when it mattered, they would win most of these games.  The Patriots need to blow teams out, their offense (and defense) choke whenever the game is close and comes down to one crucial play.  I love Tom Brady, but he is not clutch any more.  It really can’t be denied any longer. 

Maybe we should have signed Samuel!!

After seeing Houston’s alleged quality defense last night, and after seeing Green Bay’s alleged quality defense, and so forth – let’s get to the real deal, which is that OFFENSE is ahead of defense LEAGUE WIDE.   It’s not a Patriots issue, it’s what the league now is.   You’re not going to win with defense (and seriously, when was that EVER true?) – you have to win with offense, and the Patriots didn’t do it.

As far as what defensive players are doing out there, is it a situation where the players are openly refusing to stick to their assigned areas?  Over and over I’ve heard the criticism that they bite on everything and don’t stay where they’re supposed to stay.   We saw this with Brandon Meriweather and Asante Samuel – is it a player culture where they won’t do what the coaches ask them?

Is it me?  I always thought you were suppose to turn to see where the ball is not just jump up with your back to the ball.  McCourty does this ALL THE TIME! Arrington isn’e any better.

except the Texans had one bad game, the Pats defense is consistently terrible. and the Packers defense creates turnovers. as for not winning with defense, go ask the Giants how they won their 2 SB’s over the Pats, because it sure as hell wasn’t with offense.

They should just safety- and cornerback-blitz the entire game.  Blitz on every down.  Do SOMETHING.  Why worry about giving up the big play when you’re giving them up by the truckload?  Right now, with this group, you stand a better chance of sending 3 speedy guys on an outside rush and hope they get to the QB before he lets it fly.

Wonder what snit chased Pees outta town???

No Disipline on the keys late in a game, basis 101 football, pop warner teams know it also. We used to be bend but don’t break, now we are just collapsing on an epic scale in both offense and defense. Nobody can find a way to finish.

I agree. I find it odd that no patriots defensive back plays the ball. They always seem to play the WR which is clearly not working for them. I don’t know if they don’t match up physically, are simply unable to play this type of defense or if it is simply a scheme, but none of the Pats defensive backs ever seem to have their eyes in the backfield. The days of Law and Samuel jumping routes for picks seems to be long gone.

I couldn’t agree more.  You’ve got to do something- if you can’t cover you might as well attack the QB.  I thought the same thing while watching the Ravens come back.

This seems to be a Patriot trend.  They nearly gave away the AFC Championship game due to their inability to get one last first down.  Watching yesterday, with 3 minutes left and a first down, I knew exactly what was going to happen: two yards and a punt.  Sure as heck….

One has to ask the question “are they to stupid to learn how to play defense?”; are they that lacking in talent and speed that they are incapable of covering anyone?”; “is the coaching so incompetent that it actually subtracts from what they may have learned in college?”; or scariest of all….all of the above”. 

It infuriates me to no end that the Patriots have known their secondary has sucked for YEARS & yet they do NOTHING drastic to try and fix it. Here is another season that will be wasted cause of their pathetic pass defense. Who will be the next QB that will look like a Hall of Famer passing versus this defense? Ryan Tannehill of Miami? Mark Sanchez next week? Another Tom Brady year wasted on the piss poor defense. You must have some sort of defense to win in the NFL. That was proven last Super Bowl. When the Patriots defense needed to come up with a stop, they faltered and the Patriots lost the game in the end. Yea Yea I know the Giants had 3 fumbles but yet the Patriots didn’t recover 1 of them. Although the Patriots literally lost 3 of their games due to a late field goal, missed late field goal, or late td score, they could be 6-0 right now. But they’ve said this all season, “We need to play 60 minutes of good football.” And they haven’t done that.