Full Count
A Furiously Updated Red Sox Blog
WEEI.com Blog Network
David Ortiz ‘humiliated’ by way Red Sox treated him in offseason 07.05.12 at 8:15 am ET
By WEEI

David Ortiz (AP)

David Ortiz has another problem.

The Red Sox’ designated hitter and only All-Star this season voiced some of his issues with the Sox and their upper management, a point made clear in a piece written by USA Today’s Jorge L. Ortiz. In the story, the slugger suggested that he will not necessarily have an allegiance to the Sox on the open market.

Ortiz, a free agent after the season, made it clear in the piece that he has an issue with the Sox spending big on free agents but not on their longest-tenured player.

“If you go crazy and give contracts to whoever comes along despite not knowing how they’re going to do, then you don’t give me my due consideration, even though I do my thing every year, [expletive] that,” Ortiz said. “I’m going to be open to anything. My mentality is not going to be, ‘I like it here.’ It’s going to be, ‘Bring it to the table, and we’ll see what happens.’”

Last offseason, Ortiz wanted a two-year deal but eventually took a one-year, $14.575 million pact shortly before he would have gone to arbitration.

“It was humiliating. There’s no reason a guy like me should go through that,” Ortiz said. “All I was looking for was two years, at the same salary [$12.5 million].

“They ended up giving me [$2.025 million] more than that , and look at my numbers this year. Tell me if they wouldn’t have been better off. And yet they don’t hesitate to sign other guys. It was embarrassing.”

This season, Ortiz is hitting .302/.391/.607 with a team-leading 22 homers and 55 RBI.

Print  |  Email  |  Bark It Up!  |  Digg It
  • Bill O’Brien

    Ortiz didn’t listen to anyone else last season because there wasn;t anyone offering him anything. He continues to be grossly overpaid for a DH. He will never realize this. He wants full time money for being a halftime player. Get rid of this diva. 

  • AndyP

    Yeh, must be humiliating to get $14.53 million for a season’s work.

  • Tony A

    These millionaires typically make me roll my eyes in disgust but this guy is one of the few that actually come to play every day.  He shows up, isn’t on the vacation list (I think the official term is disabled list) all the time, and has performed over the long term.  That being said, the whining is typical of the way these people think.

    This game has deteriorated to a point where it’s just a business.  When people stop forking over money they don’t have to support this business, that’s when the nonsense will stop! 

  • Fenian

    enough already…then go walk…cya…

    he is having a GREAT season but he is being paid 14M to do it…WAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    the average DH out there is making 4-5M a year…so he is getting paid to produce…nothing more…nothing less…don’t like it…WALK

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TJTIEMEMM2PGHUAIBPHGIG32XA Kevin D

    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out…enough already with this prima donna..heck of a hitter but it’s all about him 

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_TJTIEMEMM2PGHUAIBPHGIG32XA Kevin D

    Don’t let the door hit you on the way out…enough already with this prima donna..heck of a hitter but it’s all about him 

  • Likesowls

    this guy used to be an easy player to root for; now just another self absorbed whiny player who is at the end of his career.   Anything more than a 1 year deal – adios muchacho!

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZVFM2HRNC5CTO2OUXD4XTX65O4 Dennis

     $15 mil to do nothing more than about 10-15 swings a game? Where’s the line, I want in. 

  • S M Ouellette51

    Simple solution; Trade him …….!

  • Itisearl

    Good for you David, you are the best thing the Red Sox have, and if you have to take your 2 World Series rings elsewhere to do the best you can for your family, you don’t owe the Red Sox anything!!!  

  • Mango Lover

    Me, me, me, me, me…$15 million a year and he’s whining.Unbelievable. Maybe if he was in shape, played the field the last 10 years he would have had a longer contract. Baseball players are the biggest whiners.

  • Wolf

    Just once I would like them to SHUT UP!!.  He could have looked for greener pastures..Did he? NO!!. He could have refused the 14m and sat out. Did he? NO!!.  He could have stood up last year and been a REAL leader and maybe saved the team and a managers job.  Did he? NO!!  Look there is no love lost with Team ownership.  I dilike and distrust them as well.  But they bent over backwards, coddled him and then overpaid him.  The fans still cheer for him, but it’s not enough.  He is sad and humiliated.  Wait until he is a free agent and the most money anyone offers him is 5 to 7M and then he can cry all the way to the bank  

  • Fhutch

    This crying act is getting old.  He only does this when he’s going well.  Enough trade him!

  • Justoneguysopinion

    I have enjoyed watching David Ortiz over the years, but am tired of all the bitching and moaning that he does.  I think it’s time to let him go.  Give Lavarnway a shot to DH and back up Salty.  He’s a lot younger, a lot cheaper and you can use that money to improve the club somewhere else, plus you gain a roster spot when the back-up catcher and the DH are the same guy..

  • Anonymous

    I’d be upset if my boss paid some stiff like Crawford or Lackey a crap load of money when they haven’t done anything for the team.

    But to make comments like this when the economy is in the tank and most fans can’t afford to bring their kids to a single game is insensitive on Ortiz’s part.

    I’m tired of wealthy athletes comparing contracts like it was a d*ck measuring contest,

  • Gazzzmann74

    Check out the 6 teams that have a designated hitters    the highest paid is 6 million  next is 2 1/2 milll then Johnny damon @1.25 million   GOOD LUCK CRYBABBY

  • http://twitter.com/Zj_6 Zack Jones

    ALRIGHT WE GET IT WE DISRESPECTED YOU NOW SHUT UP AND KEEP DOING WELL NOBODY GIVES A RATS A** WHAT YOU FEEL

  • Ethan Baird

    He never takes a night off and does his job more consistently than any full time player – meanwhile we have Crawford NOT in right field earning more than him.  Get over YOUR DH bias and give the man his due.

  • Ethan Baird

    He never takes a night off and does his job more consistently than any full time player – meanwhile we have Crawford NOT in right field earning more than him.  Get over YOUR DH bias and give the man his due.

  • Leo

    What’s humiliating is when he becomes a free agent and there is no market for a DH that can barely play first base and gets offered 14 million over 2 yrs.  Then he will understand that he had the best possible scenario he could have ever imagined.  Good luck in Seattle buddy.

  • Jeff

    Ortiz needs to stop whining about his contract. He’s done more complaining this year than anyone in recent memory.

  • Sbbeerguy

    I couldn’t LIKE this solution more!  Get this dude out of here….stat!

  • Cynthia Flanagan

    David Ortiz has been such an asset to the Red Socks and the Boston Community. It is a sad day when the “upper crust” think that they can get a better player and such a wondrful man. This man deserves more $$$
    and Henry, Werner and Lucchino know this…such fools!

  • chico walker

    Trade him now!!! Sick of the whining because he is making $14m for 1 year. So glad this organization holds on to babies like this guy, and others like AGon, Beckett, Crawford, and so many more that i just cant root for anymore. They wonder why this team is so unlikeable!!!

  • Ethan Baird

     You really need to read what he said.  He’s not complaining about the dollar amount he’s complaining about the term length.  That is pretty understandable when you are trying to plan the end of your career.  What I got from that statement was Ortiz wanted to play his last years here and he was willing to get paid less to do it, the club said “you’re too risky” and instead paid him more for a single year.  Now its going to work out poorly for both of them because the club has lost the benefit of a hometown discount (that Ortiz has consistently offered them) and David clearly has hurt feelings. 

  • Sbbeerguy

    Cynthia, nobody is saying he hasn’t been a great asset to the team and the community.  But really, his whining when he probably has $100M in the bank is a complete slap in the face to those who ultimately pay his salary—-THE FANS!   

  • scrappy coco

    trade him to the NL

  • The Oddsbreaker

    Unbelievable Whinny Beaattch,still dosn’t run out his ground balls,he’s in for a world of hurt if he thinks he can get more $ from any other team in MLB. The Yankees wouldn’t even pay more then 14.75 mil. Shut Up & just play ball

  • http://twitter.com/Zj_6 Zack Jones

     You call 15 mill for a DH a discount!? Look at others who had comparible 2010 seasons. None of them got the money ortiz did. DHs don’t get maid much at all. He’s being made way above market value. If he really wanted to leave, he could’ve gone and played elsewhere but he didn’t because he knows he’s lucky to get what he has.

  • Rtaylorvt

    It’s all relative, I suppose.  

    Let’s say that I’m a high producer at my job and, while making good money (let’s say $70,000), my employer hires somebody new who’s going to make, on average, about 40% more than me per year ($98,000) right from the start.  Shouldn’t I be frustrated?  Most likely I wouldn’t be publicly vocal about it – I think I’d be embarrassed that I was so relatively undervalued – but I’d be hurt and I’d want to be paid more appropriately for my work.That’s pretty much Ortiz and Crawford.  Different skills, I know, but the former is performing consistently up to high standards while the latter is not.I don’t want to hear someone making $14 – $15 million a year complain that his situation is “humiliating” but he’s human and I think that his frustration is understandable. 

  • Chris

    I think in a sense all of this is ridiculous…Ortiz knows as well as anyone that this is a business and contracts are given out based on market value….The bottom line is last season If Ortiz had any other suitors willing to set his market value higher than he would ahev gotten more money or more years plain and simple….The red sox offered Ortiz what they needed to to get a deal done and minimize risk heading into the future..Nobody knew ortiz would perform this well and even so i still think it was the right move on the red sox part to give him 1 year instead of two…..Who knows how Ortiz responds this season if he isnt coming into another contract year….the bottom line is the risk on an older Dh that cant play the field at all gis fairly high…He may feel disrespected by the red sox but if thats the case than there were 31 other teams that were just as disrespectful because nobody stepped up to offer him a deal last offseason…If david ortiz had stayed with the twins or went to almost any other franchise save the yankees he probably wouold have never ecplised that 12 mill dollar a season mark because most teams have budgets and dont waste money on old albeit productive Dh with nothin more to offer than 4 abs a game…. an another note ortiz should be smarter about opening his mouth in the media about this stuff because image wise it isnt too flattering…leave these complaints in convos between you and your agent ..

  • Dkendall54

    They gave Jenks, and Punto 2 yesar deals.  He has a point

  • sjangers

    As they say, S M, sometimes the simplest solutions are the stupidest.

  • sjangers

    For all the talk about being a DH, and a part-time player, Bill, Ortiz continues to earn his money in a Red Sox uniform.  Without spending much time in the field he has still earned a 35.6 WAR during his ten seasons with the Red Sox. 

    While WAR is not a precise statistic, it’s still a pretty good yardstick for measuring a player’s general value to a team.  And in that regard Ortiz has been one of the most valuable members of the Red Sox over the course of his career or on a year-by-year basis. 

    At the end of his tenth full (this) season with the Sox, Ortiz will have posted a WAR of approximately 37.0 in exchange for a salary of just over $97 million.  There are very few member of the Red Sox who have sustained this level of value for return over more than a year or two, let alone a ten year period. 

    If the Red Sox management offers him $25 million over two years now they will probably get decent production for their investment (in addition to Ortiz’ role as a pretty good clubhouse guy and team ambassador to the community); certainly better return than they have received for many other player investments in recent years.  The problem here is one of ownership priorities and the overall culture they have created on this team. 

    Getting rid of “this diva” might be a temporary feel-good for any number of discontented fans, but it isn’t going to make the team any better.

  • Blusignan

     Amen     14 million or whatever he gets and he cant even hussle out a ground ball to first  and the supposed Mr Hardass Mgr does not have the onions to say anything to him.   How does he think his teammates feel when they see him pulling a “manny” and trotting down to first vs busting his butt trying to run  just in case there might be a bad throw

  • Blusignan

     Amen     14 million or whatever he gets and he cant even hussle out a ground ball to first  and the supposed Mr Hardass Mgr does not have the onions to say anything to him.   How does he think his teammates feel when they see him pulling a “manny” and trotting down to first vs busting his butt trying to run  just in case there might be a bad throw

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZVFM2HRNC5CTO2OUXD4XTX65O4 Dennis

     He’s part of the cancer that permeated this clubhouse, and probably still does. Valentine should sit him down and tell him to shelve the whining. If he wants to club the club during the off season, go right ahead . Whatever you can afford, Ortiz.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZVFM2HRNC5CTO2OUXD4XTX65O4 Dennis

     He’s part of the cancer that permeated this clubhouse, and probably still does. Valentine should sit him down and tell him to shelve the whining. If he wants to club the club during the off season, go right ahead . Whatever you can afford, Ortiz.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZVFM2HRNC5CTO2OUXD4XTX65O4 Dennis

      Cynthia—Ortiz is the highest paid DH in the league. It’s like your company paying your co- worker much more than you, he work less than half the time, and complains about it.

  • Wily NoMo Pena

    I’ve had enough of his whining. For the first time in 5 years, he came into spring training in shape…because of the contract issue. Humiliating to make $14mm+. I feel soooo bad for him.

  • guest

     David Ortiz is the best Red Sox player since Yastremki and Rice, he gonna be in the hall of fame someday and people need to just leave him alone

  • Ortiz34renteria16

    If we keep losing by the trade dealine then ship him out for some good prospects, tank the rest of the season an get a top 10 pick next year. This team is gonna lose 1st rd if we make the playoffs. Mine as well get a top draft pick an some prospects for a guy like Ortiz. Believe me I love him an hate to see him go but if it comes down to it an we can get a heck of return for him, im all in.

  • TheTruth

    Two things I’d like to see before I’m back to believing in this guys: 1) play him for a week in the OF (love to see if he takes it in stride the way Adrian did); or 2) would like to see him get down to the bottom of the PEDs search he was conducting, after he was “erroneously” found positive for taking them.

    What everyone else is saying.

    Shut up and play.  Besides, if they re-up with him for 2013 then he’ll likely have made as much as/more than he was asking for in a two-year deal after the 2010 season.

  • Nighttrain75

    this guy has been wearing on my for a couple of years now. he’s gone from lovable teddy bear to whining selfish dbag. for me personally, it’s gotten to the point where even those pretty numbers he’s putting up aren’t enough to deal with his act 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GFNQVU7DTFQ7HXVJUGP4POKSF4 Fernando

    Although I agree with Ortiz about the policy of the Red Sox wasting money  on those contracts for free agents how could we be blind and not to realize that those same contracts given to existing players are horrible too. Look at Beckett’s contract, how easy it is to fool the team having a great year just before a new contract and then completely deflate after signing. Because they have a secure check for years to come, they just stop performing at high level. The league should change the system to protect the teams too, if you do not performed to a certain level after the contract is signed then the contract is nullified. Enough of these so called professional players, they are professionals at playing the teams into big contracts and then they are professionals in dropping the level and do almost nothing for the teams.

  • Foxloser

    Funny how being humiliated led him to come to camp in thee best shape of his tenure in Boston.

  • Jack

    This guy has been a me-first guy since day one.  Why is this story news?  I wonder why he didn’t become a free agent last year……….because his best offer would have been for about half of what he got, that’s why.

  • yankee27

    hey papi you turd you should be happy with the money you have cause lets not forget your a steroid user and was caught and promise redslob nation a very quick explanation!!! yankee fans waiting also hahaha loooooser! now go ahead and say you want to be a yankee again so the sox panic and pay you 100 million dollars hahahaha you will never be a yankee

  • http://www.facebook.com/colleen.stearns.3 Colleen Stearns

    this guy needs a diaper all he does is cry .maybe it isnt really david it mite be his kid they let run all over the place.

  • Roger34652

    I like Ortiz, always have, but last I heard was that he didn’t like all the drama in the club house.Now he turns around starts his crying AGAIN. Seems to me that even if he hasn’t been given the long term contract he wants he has been given more than a fair salary over the years even when he was in the dunps for a while.Over the years I have gotten tired of his whinny attitude.

  • Nem

    How can you feel sorry for this guy? Yes, he’s having a decent year now, but he is being very well compensated. He already has “watched out for his family” millions of times over. He used to be kind of like able but now he’s just an egotiistical jerk-bad mouthing the team that has paid him very well. He has always been treated very well by the fans also. Don’t worry about him, he doesn’t lack for anything…

  • Aer

     I wish someone would insult me with 14 million. I love Ortiz, but I think these ridiculously paid athletes lose track of reality.

  • Roberr48

    David………..What a disappointment you are……You have shown your leadership on the field all season….Bravo to you……..But in case you haven’t thought about it, you are now the one who is bringing on the Drama (that you pleaded 2 weeks ago “has to stop…let us play ball”), with this “Poor Me” millionaire life style crap.  Real nice how you are now throwing some of your team-mates under the bus……not by name, but even the casual fan should know you are referring to Crawford & Gonzalez..You are the one who is now embarrassing your team..I thought you were better than this…but then again, it was just last season when you busted into Tito’s post game TV interview cursing & crying.. ‘I want my RBI”…..
    Wow, what a leader……insulting the Sox, during the season & when the team is struggling big time. Of course you & your agent must know that Yanks are coming in…The NY media will have a field day with your selfishness….What a phony you are……You now should be crowned Mr Me Ortiz…no more Big Papi…

  • GUEST

    Quit the whining already.  He is making 14.5MM and in line for $16MM for one year next year.  Dump all the cry babies and get some guys that care about playing

  • Anonymous

    I do not think the Red Sox put any bad blood towards the Ortiz at anytime, people forget that the Red Sox took Ortiz out of the twins hands, Ortiz wasn’t going towards anything but downwards, he was a nobody, The Red Sox gave him the opportunity to rise to the level that he is in now, the Glamour if you like, he got the chance of a life time to re direct his career,. and he did., he profited from it, he got good contracts from the Sox, he is living the life that he is in now because of the Sox, so do not pout now, be thankful your are rich, just imagine you never got to go to Fenway, in that park, you went from nobody to a chance of a lifetime and became a hall of famer, and probably get your number retired at the same time, their are alot of other players that chose to leave fenway, and see where it got them, as being happy or leaving in the first place and the career went  to hell, your very fortunate.

  • Linda Holsinger

    Papi is one of my favorite players. He is a great player who just loves the game of baseball. I gree he was treated bad as was Johnny Damon. The Sox should do more to keep their key players.

Red Sox Box Score
Red Sox Schedule
Baseball Analytics Blog
Red Sox Headlines
Red Sox Minor League News
Red Sox Team Leaders
MLB Headlines
Tips & Feedback

Verify