I think it is time to blow this Red Sox group up,most of the key players involved with the HISTORICAL Collapse haven’t stepped up and may have actually gotten worse, either Blow it up or stay like this until  Beckett, Lester, Lackey, Dice K contracts are over !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and as much as I love Ellsbury I don’t think that they can sign him , bring the young kids up, it works for Tampa Bay & other teams, get rid of all the negatives before it infects all the young guys , make some trades and start fresh. Ownership made many mistakes now needs to fix it !!!!!!!!!!!!

The reason Tampa Bay has a lot of good young players is because they have had years of misery and the top 1 or 2 picks in the draft for years.  We do not have a David Price in the farm system waiting in the wings.  Credit Theo and his staff for drafting the likes of Ellsbury and Pedroia while other teams for some reason passed them by.  

I think the problem with the Sox goes back to the days where Pedro and Manny etc got to do what they wanted and whenever they wanted it.  Young players see that and expect the same when they start to reach star status and management is there to stroke their over inflated ego’s.

Bradford is right when he says Ortiz won’t be traded.  The 2004 legacy means to much for the merchandising of the Redsox and Ortiz is the last player from that team.

Ortiz would have great value to Texas,Detroit ,Tampa, Anaheim and Toronto. If they can extract real talent, and not just money,and a couple of warm bodies,they should do it.

What a prospect he’d bring from the likes of Detroit, Texas or Aneheim. Surely a #1. Nice knowing you!

Don’t get rid of Lester or Beckert without trying them in the bullpen, first. Beckert might not be able to do it,but Lester might.

When you talk about the undisplined culture on the team, that goes on Tito’s bald head. I don’t know if Valentine has been able to fix the problem,or if anyone can.

Not only is Ortiz is the team’s best hitter, he’s a Boston hero, an icon.  There’s no way Boston gets equal value in a trade to make up for the damage it would do to the organization.

Not only is Ortiz is the team’s best hitter, he’s a Boston hero, an icon.  There’s no way Boston gets equal value in a trade to make up for the damage it would do to the organization.

The Red Sox have to quickly overhaul their FO, yes, this FO is so far behind the times in some areas it is sickening, look at what Tampa Bay has done with perhaps 1/5 the money we have, why? they get smart hardworking baseball people, it’s that easy, except with the Red Sox you have this political drama constantly behind the scenes, the constant who is the boss, is it Larry L, is Ben really the GM. it’s a soap opera that has to be overhauled quickly if we are to be a player at the top echelon, obviously the FO thinks they are doing evrything  possible, this is a delusion, one more thing, get the Media to be a lot more responsible in the way the report things, cease and desist on “Golfing” drivel and the like, the same applies to the drama that was made with Clay going to Foxwoods!  Also Clay, quit chewing Tobacco, you know what it can eventually do, get wise!

i’d like to see WEEI put out a poll asking fans if the team should be blown up.

The results would be very telling.

I stew thinking of Beckett still here and Lackey be allowed to sit in the dugout. Idiot Cherington had the chance to change things in the offseason and declined. 

Bobby V is part of the solution not the problem.

Reminds me of this winter when Beckett avoided all his responsibility for months than complained about Bobby V saying he took took much time between pitches.

Theo messed this up so bad they can’t move any of the problems or they;ll be paying 50-M to get rid of the cancers.

If you can’t move them, I would send a clear message and bench these guys or send them down.

(beckett-Lester-Buch). Bard got sent down-Melancon got sent down–why play favorites

…and get Lackey off the bench

 Why does Lucchino persist in sticking his foot into his mouth? 

                                          Tom you hit the nail right on the head !   lackey is the rotton apple in this bunch, i”m sure he”s  there on the bench putting s–t  in the head”s of beckett (who needs no help makeing problems), lester, & others. get lackey the hell out of the dugout &ship beckett off to houston,tx. were he want”s to be !   yes bobby v is not the problem ,but he need”s to be the old bobby v. & lay down the law to these over paid stiffs playing a game for a living. 

Sorry Larry, Ortiz is no hall of famer

Sox are looking at a losing season again……    

Wow intersting win the whole thing or go a whole nother route ..with players coming back and some pitching coming through this years team is a playoff team..whats wrong with that..oh not enough horses to win it all..who knows, anything can happen in the playoffs..if you dismantle the team and bank on youth corp to gel and can stomach rebuilding for a couple years when we are so spoiled maybe..big maybe- if you want to really be Tampa Bay.  Think of this what happens if Iglesias cant hit, they lose Els stuck with Crawford a shell of himself Ortiz gets older Petey too then you got nuthin..farm system isn’t that deep and who you going to trade to get what..agree re the diceman the lackman of course but let’s not panic