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Will Middlebrooks on Bobby Valentine: ‘He’s trying to get me better’ 08.02.12 at 1:48 pm ET
By Alex Speier

Rookie Will Middlebrooks has nine errors in 66 games this year. (AP)

Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine, in his appearance on The Big Show on Wednesday, said that the only time that team owners have talked to him about his communication with players was when, at the conclusion of a rough defensive inning in which Will Middlebrooks made a couple of defensive miscues, the manager offered a sarcastic remark to the rookie.

“Ownership did come and say that they heard that a game when — or someone, actually ownership — that they heard when Will Middlebrooks made two errors in a game and he came off of the field and got into the dugout, I said, ‘Nice inning, Will,’ and that maybe that upset him,” said Valentine. “Now, they didn’t take it further and find out after the game that I went over to Will’s locker, I was trying to be light at the time with the ‘Nice inning,’ then I went over to his locker and told him about my experience of making three errors, being booed off the field and cushions being thrown from the Dodger Stadium fandom and me dodging them as I got into the dugout. If you’re going to deal with part of the story, then believe me, it’s not the story.”

(NB: Middlebrooks has not had any games this year in which he’s made multiple errors, though there have been instances when he’s had multiple defensive misplays in the same inning.)

When asked about the incident, Middlebrooks said that he had no recollection of such an exchange, but that he was appreciative of the approach that Valentine has taken to his player development in his rookie season.

“I don’t even remember that [incident]. I’m sure it happened, but if I made a couple errors, I was probably pretty hot,” said Middlebrooks. “He’s good about that. He keeps things pretty light. He’s never angry or mad at you. He knows you’re playing hard and doing the things that matter.”

Middlebrooks acknowledged that there is a clear distinction between the jobs of a major league and minor league manager, with minor league managers necessarily focused solely on player development, while the job of big league managers is driven by the need to win. That said, the 23-year-old said that Valentine has remained mindful of the realities of Middlebrooks’ development, and that he’s been supportive of him through his rookie experience.

“Maybe [the job of a big league manager is to win], but at the same time, he’s trying to get me better also,” said Middlebrooks, who is hitting .300/.329/.521/.890 with 13 homers and nine errors. “I’m still new to this level. He’s teaching me a lot.”

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  • Trained Observer

    How many more “incidents” does Bobby V have to be involved in before ownership identifies him as the idiot that he is?  His disparaging comments and overall abrasive style should be enough alone to send him packing.  He is more of a cancer in the clubhouse and Beckett or Lackey ever dreamed of being.  I would love to know who thought hiring this moron was a good idea….

  • Your’e Not Special

    Get a clue, “Trained Observer”.  These issues were around long before Bobby V came here and will be around long after he’s gone.  This team is a bunch of spoiled brats, that go running to Mommy (ownership) every time something happens they don’t like.  I wish a lot harsher stuff than “Nice Inning Will” would’ve been said last September. 

    You probably are one of these people that approves of every kid getting a trophy, and eliminating team captains in school sports.  Or banishing dodge ball because it might hurt someones feelings.

    People like you make me want to puke.

  • chicagoreds

    Let’s give everyone headphones and a booze cruise for being criticized for screwing up.  The inmates are running the asylum into the ground.

  • Doug

    What a combinatioon, the media & the FO, neither one ofthem knows the truth or how to tell it, let alone relating to it, this is just another sick story you have to listen to as a fan that likes and supports Middlebrooks, he’s simply paying his dues as a rookie, overall doing a darn good job, then you have the FO & Media doing butcher jobs, incomplete story painting Bobby as the hate monger, what rubbish, but over the years one becomes conditioned to half truths and lies mostly fabricated by the media, the FO is not forthcoming with the truth on many occassions, this is just one.

  • Doug

    Your handle is as funny as your lack of truth, did you not read the entire article?  Why are you making such an idiot out of yourself?  Again re read the whole piece and then make an intelligent comment.

  • Doug

    Yeah this idiot is a minion of the “new age” where truth isn’t available, and if it were he wouldn’t know how to handle it, he should talk to Jack NIcholson.

  • Cdaly

    Bobby v is a HUGE problem… Francona had a bad month compared to 7 great yrs and got sent packing this idiot has done nothing right and is still here

  • MGT Disaster

    Francona picked his coaching staff. How would you like someone else picking your wife.

    AS THE WORLD TURNS

  • Jaime29

    You want to hear some real waste of air time, go over to listen to those 2 know it alls Felger and Maz. They are in full Red Sox bashing mode as usual. 

  • Pablo Anglais

    Whatever happened between the manager and the player, should have stayed between the two of them. If the front office got involved in the way described by the manager, then the front office’s action was inappropriate.

    It’s difficult to watch the multitude of ways in which the front office consistently undermines the authority and autonomy of this manager. No manager deserves such poor treatment.

     

  • Louandjan

    your comments spew nothing but ignoance. managers are not supposed to be nice kitty softies, they are supposed to be  on their players.  francona was  very soft because he trusted  his players to do the right thing. look what the results were. francona was tough on players in his first 5 years of managing but got too chummy the last 3 years w/ his veterans. players . again  look how that turned out. the most hated / despised managers  are earl weaver, dick williams ,billy martin but they are considered some of the best managers of all time. so please stop w/ the  ”itching. if you played sports  or watched the best  teams  those are the teams w/ the heaviest hands. oh by the way the yankees manager(girardi) is a son of a gun  to his players and has no problem hanging them out to dry see  nova.
    how come ny media are not all over  
    him. it  is because management has his back. girardi has hair and dress policies, players canot have  facial  hair or long hair. players must wear suits  when traveling on the road. he has been witnessed during games going over to several different players and give them  a what for on their lack of proper play .  please trained observer get more training, much more . i

  • http://twitter.com/Zj_6 Zack Jones

    you are an absolute moron. What he’s done this year with the bullpen, the young players, and the lineup, have been great. He’s being handcuffed by the front office and STILL he has succeeded. The only person screwing up is Luchino and Cherington. Bobby V was the one who DIDN’T want bard to start. Cherington overruled. 

  • http://twitter.com/Zj_6 Zack Jones

    Luchino is the real idiot. And so are you. 

  • Played an Observer on TV

    Uh, that moron would be none other than Larry Lucchino, who should be the one held accountable for hiring Bobby in the first place.  Lucchino chose Valentine because he wanted someone abrasive instead of a player’s manager like Francona.  Sometimes you should be careful what you wish for. 

    When you look at these past two years, the manager has changed but most of the players have been constant.  Perhaps that’s the real problem here. 

  • Tchuyoyo

    Bobby V has done a great job with his game management. He has kept this team in the chase despite managing a team with the MLB record for MOST injuries in a season. He made the most out of that revolving door of talent. Some nights I walked in on a game in progress and didn’t even know who was in the outfield. This team would have been playing 300 ball and far out of it with a lot of other guys managing. LUCCHINO – once he got Theo and Tito out of the way – orchestrated this whole 2012 circus. Bringin in Bobby but making him work with hold-over coaches. That’s crazy! Letting Cherington be “Theo” but with the postion’s power diluted back to the level it was when Theo had to walk out and hold out, until Henry gave him more power…..power that Larry was forced to give up. Lucchino is good at marketing and making money and renovating Fenway and selling bricks to pink hats. But calling the shots at running a ball team and blending the right personalities – Larry’s a disaster. I have no doubt that Ben could likely GM better than Theo – if Larry hadn’t regained power. Ben is handcuffed. Bobb V is handcuffed. And Larry has the puppet strings on them all. Ben may have to walk out on them in a gorilla suit one night. 

  • Normdubois

       You’ve got that right.  The two ‘know it alls’. They are so cocky and arrogant, they even
       have this ongoing commercial about Bobby Valentine with Mazzaroti saying “He can’t
       help himself, he’s got an opinion on everything, the guy invented the wrap for crying
       out loud”. Mazzaroti is being sarcastic and animated with facial expressions (rolls his
       eyes, smirks etc.).  Who is he to talk about anyone that has an opinion on everything?
       That’s all that he and Felger have and we all know what they say about opinions!

  • Qtrback

    The idiot/moron is ownership my friend……

  • Stumpsr

    If the kid isn’t bothered by it then it shouldn’t be an issue. Not everyone is as sensitive as Carl Crawford…..or whomever the stool pigeon is.

  • Jarmenio8275

    Pretty obvious that Valentine is being run out of town here by the media……they can deny all they want.   They are enabling the players by the constant criticism and ridiculing of Valentine. Hey Maz just because you rant until you run out of breath doesn’t mean you are right. Valentine cant win no matter what he does. Wont be long til the media is ragging on the Pats for winning a game by 3 points.

  • Johnerocket

    and Merloni…shut you whiny pie hole.. you scrub

  • Johnerocket

    and Merloni…shut you whiny pie hole.. you scrub

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_J6CSXCU4KVZJYCXEG3AIW3GNRA Paul Sousa

    The worst part of all this is the players have won.  They will get what they want.  It sounds like, from Middlebrooks, Valentine was just busting his balls in a way to take the edge off and I’m sure Pedroia went running to Ben who went to ownership (basically to validate his point that they should have been more serious about Dave – Casey Stengel – Connie Mack - Sparky Anderson – Tony Larussa – Jauss.

  • Tchuyoyo

    WWBBD?  Man! What Would Bill Bellichick Do? Can you imagine? 
    1) I want to hire my OWN coaching staff before I sign MY name on the Head Coach contract.
    2) How I treat my players (Just DO your JOB!) is MY business ,and not management’s business (ie. Lucky Lucchino…STEP OFF! This clubhouse is MY show. Go sell your bricks).
    3) GM – You are going to help me ship out of town, the guys I WANT shipped out of town…..
    and that is just scratching the surface of what a guy like BB would do to turn this roster of players back into winners.

  • Sportschick

    The worst part to me is that everyone is bashing Bobby V. and I don’t hear a lot about that evil bstard Larry Lucchino.  HE is the one who is running the Red Sox and obviously doing a really bad job.  Where is any accountability for him?  And where the he!! is John Henry in all this?  And Tom Warner??  If we can all see what is going on, why can’t they.  This whole thing just makes me sick and I find it really difficult to even watch the games.

  • Fred Fross

    Here we go again

  • Fred Fross

    You are … Pedroia ???

  • Bharvishsom

    talent wise he is the second coming of nomar-30 HRs 80-100 RBI peak (down the road) he might not hit .350-.370 avg but his is the one big bright spot this year and for the future!!! he so talented that a sarcastic remark by valentine on defensive miscues (not errors) won’t hinder him!
     

  • Mike Puma

    As a Yankees fan, this is not a surprise.  Everything about the Sox is bush.  Backstabbing their manager has been a favorite past-time of Sox bush leaguers for decades.  Can you imagine these gutless worms going to ownership and complaining that Bobby V made a sarcastic comment to a rookie who botched 2 balls in the same inning.
    It boggles the mind.
    Unfortunately, minds are simply not there to be boggled in Red Sox nation. 
    This is so typical of these whining losers.  But, still enjoyable to see.

  • Mail

    The biggest problem for the Sox, besides their lousy starting pitching of course, is they need to catch and give an old fashion spanking to the narc in the club house.  Someone loves drama more than baseball.

  • JonnyRay

    whiners and complainers

  • Jioahmn

    Who trained your observations? Bobby V?

  • Jioahmn

     Bobby V is doing pretty good considering the hand he was dealt. He’s not afraid of playing Rookies and he is a good evaluator of the underlying talent on the team, such as Morales as a starter. Give him a chance. He hasn’t had the luxury of fielding an intact lineup all year, and 2 of his veteran starters aren’t even playing – Dice-K and Lackey.

  • Jioahmn

    Mike – why don’t you go troll the Mets pages? Oh, your Mother is calling you upstairs from the basement you reside in – Supper is ready.

  • Pete Davidson

    Mikey, I’d go with James Jones for upside, but Crabtree if you want to play it safe.  Head over to our chat at 11 a.m. if you have more questions.  Follow the link on the homepage.

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