Ortiz said ” This is the same guy who later that night couldn’t even get out of a chair or bend over to pick something up.”

Was it Ortiz who passed Beckett his beer out of the case?

These are the guys who are the so-called stars and leaders of this team?? Ortiz got in shape this year because he didn’t get the contract last offseason he thought he was entitled too.

 How competitive is Beckett when he continues to show up in terrible shape & continues to get injured? Wouldn’t such a competitive guy get himself in great shape to try and avoid his yearly injuries?

This team is filled with “stars” who continue to make excuses for each other and deny the fact that they lack a leader who will get in these guys faces. Maybe the whole issue is they get along to well. Ortiz and Beckett should both be let go in the offseason. Not the kind of leaders this team requires.

Bradford continues his mission of trying to make Josh Beckett look good. Good luck with that Rob.

I don’t question that Beckett was hurt, but I do say that Josh has not kept himself in good shape.  

I can’t wrap my head around a 14 mil player who only bats 5 or 6 times per game being so injured. What a bunch of prima donnas. Ortiz  was given life by the Sox and every year he is out a month or so. 14 mil for a DH and still wants more and a 2 month vacation in the middle of the season. Thank God for the Patriots and football season.

He is not in good shape and I think that is his problem. Beckett’s velocity has been dropping consistently over the last several years and unlless he reinvents himself you are getting what he is now, a mediocre pitcher. Yeah David, Josh got the whole training staff fired last year because he did not work out duringbthe season. These were working people supporting their families. Josh who is paid 15 million a year did not want to work out and the guy lost his job as well as other people. I am sure Josh can look himself in the mirror and say he is doing a good job. Yeah David Josh is a great guy. My question to you is what is taking you so long in getting back when this team needs you desperately ?

Let’s just deal with facts, O.K? Ortiz losing weight had nothing to do with his salary.
He was informed of the potential of diabetes and he took it seriously. His father had it and so he made up his mind to do something about it.

One crybaby defending another.  Ortiz is the highest paid DH in the game (I think by a factor of 2X) yet he still feels disrespected.  Beckett is out of shape and the result is back trouble.  Competing here is easy is you’re perceived as always trying as hard as you possibly can.  That’s why Pedroia gets a pass for his asinine comments to Bobby V (“that’s not how we do it around here.”)  Stop whining and start playing better – nobody loves a winner more than Boston yet we will always salute a team if we think that they are giving everything that they have (see Celtics, end of Game 6 against Miami).  And no one views this year’s Sox in a similar manner – and whose fault is that?

Okay lets say that is true. Doesn’t it say alot that he wasn’t getting in the best shape possible in previous seasons to be able to be the best he could be. Considering the amount of money the Sox have been paying him I would think he would be in top shape every year and at least owe that to the organization.

The “diabetes” story maybe true but it speaks volumes about Ortiz that it would take something like that to get himself in shape. Sorry, that does not reflect well on him.

David Ortiz: “Enable, Enable Enable”……..

The funny part is that Ortiz claimed he’d never seen anyone in 15 years fake an injury. Clearly he’s already forgotten Manny…

Well put Mayor, hate to say this but the fact that Pedroia and Francona were so close will cause him to cry and complain about any manager that he cannot snuggle up to. Wait until they find whatever it is that has made Ortiz bat speed miraculously come back.

“Are you kidding me” says Ortiz.  No Papi, we’re not kidding.  While Beckett’s spasm was arguably real, he
along with several other veterans on this team have shown little more than a
bunch of underperforming entitled cry babies. 
The three marquis starters have not produced on the field, continue to
break down physically or mentally and come off as anything but
professional.  Beckett’s arrogance is
surpassed only by the antics from Lester that makes him look like a spoiled
little leaguer when he’s on the mound or in the dugout crying about a call from
an ump.

Though many of us have not been big Valentine fans, the crap
that has been coming from the players, coaches, management and ownership aren’t
all Bobby’s doing.  I know – how about
working harder?  Comments like “I can do
what I want on my day off” are for lazy amateurs.  Take a look at some of the Olympians who bust
their butts for four years and put everything on the line for one event and
never take anything more from their work than the tremendous pride in competing
at the top of their class.  The leaders
on this Sox team are becoming little more than caricatures of everything that sucks
in pro sports.  It’s time to look in the
mirror, get over yourselves, play some baseball and stop acting like a bunch of
money grubbing whiney brats.

 I seriously cant stand this red sox team. They are disgusting. Get RID of these entitled little crybabies and let Pedroia rock the C with his angry little boy complex lol.

Beckett is fat, unmotivated and a putz.  Now, who wants him?

 i agree mike, but beckett seems to be the beginning and end of the problems… lester at least seems to care and bucholz atleast pitches well on occasion…
ithink the fans can see the team without beckett turning it around and tipping the scales back to a cohesive group… its nice that ortiz has his back but everyone but front office knows if he And lackey are back next year you can probably expect the same kind of season as this one… no matter how good the talent around them are..

 You fans are IDIOTS!  Josh Becket is a competitor.  Take a look at a picture of your beloved Youkilis.  He was FAT!

Seriously – take a look at a picture of Beckett from 2007 and one from now – the StayPuff marshmallow should be looking over his shoulder….

what does youk have to do with anything? he’s not even a redsox

 quit listening to Felger & Tangway

Ok, so what will be Bradford’s excuses for Beckett today? 8 ER’s in 5+ innings of work? Here’s an idea for Larry Johnson’s cartoon tomorrow:  A steaming pile of dung, flies circling around it, wearing a Sox cap and the number 19!!! That’s what I see every time this guy takes the mound now.

The only way fat Josh reinvents himself is to go to Toronto and find the same trainer/”nutritionist” Roger Clemens used in 1997-98!!  As far as David goes, I’m afraid he’s protecting his next contract at this point!

Exactly! Same questions, opinions, comments as the classless Felger, Tanguay, Mazzarotti and others, they’re always reiterating the same stories, as they will all year long., (beer/chicken, condemning Valentine)!  Xander should start by using the two words ‘to & too’ properly.   

Exactly, same questions, opinions and comments as the ‘classless’ Felger, Tanguay, Mazzarotti and others. They also keep reiterating the same stories as they will continue all year long, (especially about the beer/chicken and condemning Valentine).  Xander should
start by using the two words ‘to & too’ properly!      

Well for starters – he’s not taking ‘money out of his pocket’ as he gets paid whether he plays or not (especially since he’s under a long term contract that the Red Sox couldn’t give away with his performance this year).  

He probably wouldn’t get as much grief for this one had he not gone golfing during his last ‘injury stint’.

Besides – at $14 Million per year and a 5-9 record and 4.59 ERA — you deserve every boo you get.  Yes, Red Sox Nation is hard on our players but that’s why Red Sox (and Yankees) players get paid what they get paid.

he doesnt have to get in shape, he is guaranteed 15,000,000 a year for just showing up, win or lose he gets paid, so what incentive does he have, he doesnt want to be in boston, but now one will take him off their hands

He means future contract money when he says taking money out of his pocket. Are you all that narrow minded in B town?

Do the team and Bobby V a favour and dump both these fakers!

Cry me a river….spoiled rich brats.

With regard to Ortiz and injuries your blowing smoke up everybodies azz making a blanket statement which is totally false. In seasons 2009, 2010 and 2011 Ortiz played in 150, 145 and 146 games or a total of 441 games out of a possible 486 missing an average of 15 games per year and in at least half of those games Ortiz didn’t play because they are inter-league games where the DH doesn’t play which means he’s either played or been available to play in 155-156 games a year out of a possible 162. It doesn’t get any better than that. . 

In seven of the last eight season his per game average played per season is at least 150 games with only 2008 when he missed a bunch of games due to injuries. Before you post something stupid and inaccurate you should check your facts. 

very well said.

“The “diabetes” story maybe true but it speaks volumes about Ortiz that it would take something like that to get himself in shape. Sorry, that does not reflect well on him.”
Are you serious?   I say Kudos to Ortiz, if only half of the American population would take that into consideration.  If that story is true then Ortiz is a hero in my book for taking control of his health instead of sticking his head in the sand.

Or Nomar…

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