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One day later, a look at how Jose Iglesias can avoid being replaced by a pinch-hitter 09.17.12 at 8:19 pm ET
By Rob Bradford

Jose Iglesias

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. — Sunday afternoon might have been a first for some, but not Dave Magadan.

“I’ve seen it before, if you can believe that,” said the Red Sox hitting coach.

What Magadan was referencing was the instance in the Red Sox’ game against the Blue Jays in which manager Bobby Valentine chose to pinch-hit Daniel Nava for Jose Iglesias in the seventh inning … with the count sitting at 2-2. The result of the move — which was implemented after Pedro Ciriaco got into scoring position with a steal of second — was a groundout to second base by Nava.

But while Magadan did remember another occasion of the move taking place, that other time was 19 years before, when then-Seattle manager Lou Piniella pinch-hit Rich Amaral for Mike Blowers after Blowers failed to get down two straight bunt attempts.

“I got there in the middle of the summer and the guys were still talking about it,” remembered Magadan. “The funny thing was [Piniella] put a hit-and-run on and it worked.”

But nostalgia aside, the real topic of conversation regarding the decision, prior to the Red Sox’ series opener against the Rays, was how Iglesias would handle the situation. Valentine spoke with the rookie following the Sox’ loss Sunday, with Magadan sitting down with the shortstop prior to Monday night’s game.

“I think he’ll be fine,” Magadan said. “He’s a confident kid. He knows he has a lot to learn. He said all the right things when he was asked about it. We’ll make sure he’s in a good frame of mind the next time he plays. We all believe in him.”

Even with the steadied mindset, the incident offered a reminder of where Iglesias is at in regards to his progress as a major leaguer.

The 22-year-old entered Monday night just 2-for-28, having come off a Triple-A season in which he hit .266 with a .318 on-base percentage and .624 OPS. Iglesias had seemingly turned a corner heading through August with Pawtucket, but upon joining the Red Sox on Aug. 25 his plate appearances became sporadic, as did his production.

According to Magadan, the problem regarding Iglesias’ offense isn’t a mystery — he needs more time.

Fielding hasn't been a problem for Jose Iglesias, but hitting is another story. (AP)

“A lot of what I saw when I saw him in spring training and last year when he was up a little bit, with him it’s hard to even get into the mechanics of his swing because for me it begins and ends with pitch selection,” the hitting coach said. “He needs to work on the recognition of pitches, and not only fastball to curveball, fastball to slider, but it’s fastball strike, fastball, ball. I think that’s just going to come with experience. He needs to play. He needs the experience of the at-bats and the grinding of the at-bat. The rhythm of the at-bat. He’s never played more than 100 or so games. He’s probably only got all told about two years of at-bats. For a kid who didn’t have a lot of experience when he was younger and came over I think the big thing is to get those at-bat experiences.

“We can go in the cage and we can work until we’re blue in the face and we can take batting practice, and mechanically he’s OK. He just has to understand whether to swing at this pitch, whether not to swing at this pitch, what am I looking for, am I recognizing what I’m looking for. Those are all things you gain that edge after having a lot of at-bats under your belt.”

Between the minors and majors, Iglesias has totaled 1,115 plate appearances as a professional, or — as Magadan pointed out — the equivalent of roughly two full big league seasons.

According to the infielder, even after the drama surrounding his exit from Sunday’s game, he understands the reality of his situation.

“No doubt, I was surprised. I was ready to hit,” he said of being replaced by Nava. “I was feeling pretty good at the time at the plate, especially yesterday. [Valentine] made that decision and I respected it. … He just told me he thought it was a good idea for the team and I respect that. I think it’s going to be alright.”

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  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZVFM2HRNC5CTO2OUXD4XTX65O4 Dennis

     Wouldn’t it be nice if they had hitting coaches in the minors?  For what these guys are making, they should be able to make contact with anything short of the pitcher throwing the ball into centerfield.

  • josef10

    Merloni has made such a big deal of the Igelesias move, what he calls  ‘embarrassingt’ ,saying these games are meaningless and who cares.  Hey Merloni, if no one cares, why don’t we make it official?  Why the hell do you think people are still following the Red Sox?   By your attitude, we should shut down the Red Sox TV games and radio broadcasts or the games itself, immediately.  Mind you, people are paying good money to attend your ‘meaningless-who-cares’ games.  The article has said Magadan has seen this ‘move’ before and also, that Valentine was ‘victim’ to this himself.  Hey, over my many years of watching baseball, I have seen outfielders replaced in the middle of an inning for a better defense.  Whats the big difference?   I want to be sure the manager is making his utmost to win, even if thinking out of the box……thats why we watch and listen to our home team games.  As Valentine said, ‘this is not kindergarden”.. I will add to that, these ‘meaningless’ games should not be used to coddle players or provide them with entitlements.  This is why I am a Valentine guy.  He wants to win from the first pitch.  I like his moves.  For example, note the pitching changes/choices  and the timing of them…including surprises which have often worked.  Valentine knows what he is doing.  I hope he is around next year.  Maybe he needs to upgrade his communication skills but… above  all, he wants to win.   Thats what it is all about.  Merloni, spare me of your pontifications.

  • markfromlynn

    What Merloni meant was…these games don’t matter in terms of a playoff spot. Iglesias should have been left in to finish the at bat. The only way young players are going to mature and develop is to be put into situations like Sunday.This is what Magadan meant when he said Iglesias needs more time.Time and at bast against ML pitching.

     As far as Valentine’s managerial skill? Well he’s been fired from every managerial position he’s ever had. Including his two stints in Japan.Valentine has never finished higher than second place with any MLB team and has a history of contentious relationships with GM’s ( he was fired after a dispute with the GM of his Japanese team and had a very tense relationship with Mets GM Steve Phillips),players and the media everywhere he’s been. His hire here was an absolute whiff by Sox ownership/management. His own GM ( Cherington) was against hiring him. How could Valentine expect anyone to take him seriously when he was the SIXTH candidate interviewed and his hiring wasn’t supported by the man he would work closest with?

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