Full Count
A Furiously Updated Red Sox Blog
WEEI.com Blog Network
Bobby Valentine says Red Sox coaches undermined him, talks John Farrell in final Big Show appearance 10.03.12 at 4:05 pm ET
By WEEI

Bobby Valentine

Making his last appearance of the season on The Big Show, Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine said Wednesday that he was undermined by his coaching staff throughout the season.

Asked by Glenn Ordway if he felt the Red Sox’ coaching staff and those around him have been loyal to him during the course of the season, Valentine responded, “No.”

Asked why, Valentine said, “You asked me what I feel. That’s what I feel.”

Ordway then followed up by asking if he felt he was undermined by them, to which Valentine responded “Yes.” Asked why, Valentine again said, “[It's] just what I feel.”

Valentine didn’t blame the organization for the picking of his coaches, saying, “I had a say. I interviewed everyone.” Asked what went wrong along the way, Valentine said, “Just bad decisions” and that it was his job to try to “work through it” and “make it all functional.”

Asked if he would want different coaches if he were to return next year, Valentine responded, “Some, yeah.”

Valentine, who has one more year remaining on his contract, said he does not know whether the Sox will bring him back for next season.

“I really don’t,” Valentine said. “It all depends what they’re looking for. People have to make decisions, and God bless them. It’s not going to be an easy job no matter who’s at the helm.”

Blue Jays manager John Farrell has long been rumored to replace Valentine, though the former Boston pitching coach is still under contract with Toronto. Rumored friction between Farrell and Blue Jays general manager Alex Anthopoulos has led to speculation that the manager could be attainable.

“John Farrell. Wow, I thought he already had a job,” Valentine said when Farrell was brought up. “Maybe there will be a trade, is that what you mean?”

Asked by Michael Holley what he feels he has done well in his season with the Red Sox, Valentine sarcastically responded “Zero, nothing obviously. Brutal. I’ve done nothing good.” Asked again, Valentine admitted the season has been a struggle but said, “I protected my players as well as anyone could have imagined.”

Valentine was asked how he’s gotten along with Red Sox general manager Ben Cherington.

“It’s been a work in progress all year,” Valentine said of his relationship with the first-year general manager. “I think Ben’s had as tough a year dealing with all of this roster situation as any general manager ever has.”

Added Valentine: “I’ve never raised my voice to him. .. We haven’t had any arguments. He’s my boss and he’s pointed some things out to me along the way that I think he might have disagreed with and I respected his opinion. I don’t know how you judge these things. I think it’s been very functional.”

Read More: Bobby Valentine, John Farrell, Print  |  Email  |  Bark It Up!  |  Digg It
  • Sgt_prep

    Go red sux!!!

  • Bevin99

    Yet another area where GM Cherington failed miserably. How can he allow coaches to undermine the manager??  Hey why not, he allowed the players to undermine the manager.
    Cherington is as big a reason for the failure of this season as anyone.

  • 44bosoxnation

    This season was a joke, fire  B.V. and start fresh….have a lot of payroll money for next year!!!!! This season was a  follow up on the last part of last season!!! First make Dustin the captain of the team. We have a great team with all the call ups…the injuries hurt us at the beginning..Ellsbury never did get in shape after getting hurt early in the season. Crawford was a big time BUST!!! Glad he is gone, along with that chicken eating, beer drinking, playing golf getting hurt on his start, airhead Beckett. Like they say next year will be better, as long as they get rid of B.V. first!!!!! We have the parts to do great, but we need to replace clogs in our starting four.

  • 44bosoxnation

    Do you hear me?

  • BOSOX04NJ

    Congrats to the OAKLAND A’s and especially to CoCo Crisp, Josh Reddick and Brandon Moss.
    Remember When?????  And let’s keep in mind, the A’s did it with a $ 55M payroll.
    What a great success story. 

  • Johncuckti

    If originality were money you’d be homeless in a gutter. Oh wait, you still are. Disregard.

  • Johncuckti

    Yes, because they were 162-0 and won the WS with Varitek as captain last year, genius.

  • zz

    A trade —- I am sure the Jays really were excited about that

  • zz

    Stupid A’s for $55 they could have had Beckett Gonzales and Crawford  almost———— and no one else

  • Good response

    Once a Pat always a Pat. Not afraid to speak up against a real jerk hwo cannot manage his
    own life.

  • Jimrma

    Great Response Heath and hope that Suggs sees it, he is absolute JERK.

  • jimromeisasass

    this whole dialogue is beyond stupid. 

  • Srogan12

    Highly unusual… an intelligent, knowledgeable, unbiased media member

  • Anonymous

    I mean did anyone expect not to hear from Suggs about the Patriots after the Ravens beat NE and then won the Superbowl. Predictable and stupid comments by this guy shouldn’t ruffle anyone’s feathers. 

  • Anonymous

    Suggs talking smack about tom Brady??  You aint won enough or done enough in your career Suggs.  Besides, maybe the Pats dont like any of those other 31 teams!! But everyone of their qb’s has been the beneficiary of the “tuck rule”.  Be happy you won Suggs.  Enjoy the moment, because it doesnt last forever!!  Those 31 other temas are going to be gunning for you, and all the other Ravens.  Matter of fact, call around Suggs, I guarantee they all hate you at this moment!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-Brown/1093213917 Christopher Brown

    Way to go Evans! I’m glad someone put Suggs in his place…the guy is a complete idiot. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Christopher-Brown/1093213917 Christopher Brown

    Way to go Evans! I’m glad someone put Suggs in his place…the guy is a complete idiot. 

  • williiehank

    Real problem was WEEI giving that fool air time, shame on you Holley!

  • Rundmc56

    I had spies at one of my practices, so I got them and took them on the practice field and explained my defense in detail to them.  We got all the way through it.  Then when I told them how to readjust the players on their team to play us, they got embarassed and left.  We whipped them 28-0 that weekend.  Quit whining.

  • Ty

    Time to set the record straight on behalf of Heath Evans one more time.

    First, so many people are ignorant as to what Spygate actually entails that the word “cheating” is thrown around like a football (yes, pun intended).  The Patriots were filming the opponent’s sidelines from an area they weren’t supposed to be filming from.  Is filming the opposing sidelines against the rules? No, it is not.  Every single team in the league has done it from up in the booth for decades now.  Why do you think teams still change their signals from week to week and play calls?  To think that the cameras actually gave them some added advantage is just simply incorrect.  What the Patriots did that got them punished was film from their own sideline instead of up in the booth where it’s legal to do so.  A memo had been sent to every team in the NFL before the 2007 season began, so needless to say, Gooddell wasn’t happy and at the time, handed down the Patriots the harshest discipline that had ever been handed out in the history of the NFL.  Don’t be so naiive as to think what the Patriots were doing was not something else any other team was doing either.

    And here’s where the thinking behind this whole thing supposedly helping the Patriots out for years absolutely falls apart: they missed the playoffs entirely in 2002 after having won their first franchise SB.  They lost in the playoffs in both 2005 and 2006.  What, did they randomly not use cameras then?  They’ve been the winningest franchise since Spygate happened, and that includes an 18-0 run immediately afterwards.  Sorry, but Spygate is juts an excuse people use to dish out hate towards the Pats when the real truth behind the matter is that people were envious and sick of the Patriots after they won their 3rd SB in 4 years and established a dynasty.

  • Anonymous

    Someone once said that parents with IQ’s of 50 do not produce offspring with IQ’s greater than 50. Suggs is living proof. 

  • Chuckchamp

    Terrell Suggs is a loser thug who is a talented pass rusher and an amazingly quick healer though he seams to have grown antlers!!! As for his comments about Brady they qualify as absolutely unfounded remarks and are just his opinions. Every fan of this game appreciate the talents of TB and very few recognize Sugg’s contribution to the game and his statements reek of jealousy!!!!!

  • Jasond0879

    You sound like a complete idiot? Cheat how? Placement of a camera so many other teams did it. I sense your jealousy of our franchise and its OK. The Patriots are a top 3 franchise in the NFL

  • H Bouley

    YAWN!! Hey troll, How about some new schtik. The NFL never accused the Pats of cheating. All that was stated was they secured film of other teams(info which other teams also undoubtedly had) by means not allowed by NFL rules. The Pats actually have a better won/lost record under Belicek after spygate than before which proves you are clueless.

  • Greg

    Your an idiot, do you actually know anything about the media created spy gate? Let me explain in simple words for you. NOTHING !,,,,, they did nothing every other team wasn’t doing.

  • ChrisinDanvers

    It is always fun to see players explain things the way they think they need to. For whatever reason, Suggs decided he needed to make his comments – which were all part of his advertising fodder when he appeared on The Big Show (although I am not sure he really got the audience he was talking to 100 percent if he was trying to sell his movie).

    But, what is even better is the way that former players respond to it. It is great that Heath Evans didn’t mince words, got straight to the point, and noted that, while Suggs is a great player, is opinions are useless, tired, and based on bad information. That’s the best way to come back from ridiculous comments like Suggs’.

  • SickofSuggs

    Good intent, but he told him to shut his mouth and speak the truth.  That’s like saying die and have a nice life.

  • nhfisherman

    Terrell Suggs is nothing more than a loud-mouthed pantload. If he spent as much time working on his girth as he does running his mouth about the Patriots, he might become an even better player. Unbelievable how this guy will say anything to stir the pot and get a little attention. Dude, you need to get over the past and move on.

  • http://www.facebook.com/richard.frye.52 Richard Frye

    WELL SAID…    every bit of it the truth…  

  • Alexdholder

    If thugs wasn’t scared of the Patriots he wouldn’t have opened his stupid fat mouth in the first place!!

  • Djdonn

    I saw Evans in an interview on the NFL Network with Sharper. Sharper was saying the Patriots are now irrelevant. What a fool. It was starting to get heated. Evans was clearly pissed.
    The Patriots have lost 2 Super Bowls in the last minutes, the second one without our best weapon, Gronkowsky and the fool calls them irrelevant.  

  • Djdonn

    I saw Evans in an interview on the NFL Network with Sharper. Sharper was saying the Patriots are now irrelevant. What a fool. It was starting to get heated. Evans was clearly pissed.
    The Patriots have lost 2 Super Bowls in the last minutes, the second one without our best weapon, Gronkowsky and the fool calls them irrelevant.  

  • Anonymous

    A super star athlete restructures his contract to win and you have Fred Toucher ripping him. What an idiot! I don’t even consider him a sports reporter. He reminds me of the rock station bcn when they played Mishagots. What a morron! He’s a Touch-Hole! And who actually listens to Suggs any way? I can’t believe he even wears a helmet during practice. Look if the Pats free up money so Tommy boy can win it only stands to reason that someone else is going to get paid. An athlete who is not all about the money. What a breath of freash air.
    And as far as Borges and Shaughnseey, they’re just angry old men that nobody listens to anymore.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NM46GKNZIKFDM3OY7EIMXR26AI Bob-Omb

    Suggs is just mad that nobody cares about the Ravens winning the Super Bowl, so he figured he’d come on the radio to “promote his movie” and just talk a bunch of junk to people will think about him. Holley was about to make him look like a fool in that interview and he knew it and bailed: 
    “I always tell it like it is”  
    “Is Brady better than your guy?”  
    “I don’t know.  I’m out of time.  Gotta go. Bye.”

  • Marlenereid

    suggs just mad that brady wont let him suck his dick. Rejection rage, that’s all it is. lol

  • H Bouley

    Do you actually eat with that mouth?

  • H Bouley

    I wonder if Sharper thinks the Brocos, 49ers and Packers are irrelevant also since none have won a super bowl this century LOL Actually my feeling is Sharper was give the role of a Suggs supporter in a debate, was not prepared to argue and came out looking like a fool.

  • Geminayedream

    QRTBACK are you talking about college, serious half graduated on cow tippin. have you listened to MICHEL VICK talk. 

  • CAPATSFAN

    That as an excellent explanation of what really happened.  It’s too bad that you aren’t the one writing these articles.  Very well said.  The fact is that regardless of what was filmed and subsequently planned you still have to execute.  The Patriots have been the best at executing game plans and winning. And whther or not the other teams “HATE” the Patriots, players everywhere wish they could belong to such a class organization.  And those players who come to the Patriots from other teams tell everyone how happy they were to be selected as a Patriot.  And I would be remiss if I didn’t end this note by stating that Robert Kraft is the classiest of all of the owners.

  • J Wilson

    F*** Heath Evans. He sucks and never had an impact on the game like Suggs

  • Shaggyo3

    hate to day it pats fans, but what suggs said is true.  i work at a bar in a tourist area of florida, and talk to people from all over the country about football all the time.  Your beloved pats are absolutley hated outside of new england, thats just a fact.

  • FailTrollsFail

     Clearly a bunch of drunks are reliable :P

Red Sox Box Score
Red Sox Schedule
Baseball Analytics Blog
Red Sox Headlines
Red Sox Minor League News
Red Sox Team Leaders
MLB Headlines
Tips & Feedback

Verify