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A look at why the Red Sox might have been interested in Jose Reyes 11.14.12 at 12:46 pm ET
By Rob Bradford

The Red Sox had preliminary conversations with the Marlins about acquiring Jose Reyes. (AP)

One of the most interesting pieces of the Blue Jays/Marlins mega-deal fall-out is this: According to a baseball source, the Red Sox had preliminary talks with the Marlins about potentially acquiring shortstop Jose Reyes and/or pitcher Josh Johnson.

The interest in Johnson isn’t surprising. He fits the mold, controllable for one more year at just more than $13 million. At 28 years old, the righty was just two years removed from winning a National League ERA title, and while 2012 represented a down year, he was good enough (31 starts, 3.81 ERA) to be a nice fit in any rotation.

But what about Reyes?

This is a player who is locked up through 2017 via a six-year, $106 million deal (with a $22 million club option for ’18), with his all-important AAV (annual average value) coming in at $17.67 million.

The backloaded structure of his deal means that he will earn upwards of $20 million for each of the final three (or potentially four) years of his contract. Given the fact that his salary will go up as his production and health likely diminish as he nears his mid-30s, the Marlins likely traded him when his value was highest. The market for his services is more likely to narrow than increase down the road.

The remaining five years of his deal represent the type of commitment that many thought the Red Sox wouldn’t be diving back into for some time, or at least until the perfect player who was the perfect fit came along.

Could it be that the Red Sox viewed Reyes in such a light?

There are reasons the 29-year-old might be considered for such a commitment:

1. The Red Sox would welcome an upgrade at shortstop. Right now, Jose Iglesias is slotted in as the starter, but there is some concern regarding how much support the team would have to possess throughout the rest of the lineup in order to make up for Iglesias’ deficiencies. Reyes would erase any such concerns.

2. Reyes is a legitimate leadoff hitter. While Jacoby Ellsbury would seem to be able to fill that role in 2013, there’s a good chance he’ll depart via free agency after the season — if he’s not traded sooner. And even with Ellsbury in the lineup, the switch-hitting Reyes offers the kind of top-of-the-order flexibility that would the Red Sox drool over. Jackie Bradley Jr., an on-base machine, might represent an eventual homegrown replacement for Ellsbury atop the order, though whether the Sox will want Bradley to assume top-of-the-order responsibilities at the start of his career remains to be seen.

3. Reyes fits the style of play new manager John Farrell wants to implement, having come off a 40-stolen base season. He’s one of the most impactful baserunners in the game.

4. Reyes’ plate discipline seemingly continues to get better with age. He garnered more walks (63) than strikeouts (56) in 2012 for his second straight season. This after striking out more than twice as much as he walked in ’10.

5. He played in New York, taking out some of the concerns regarding any acclimation to the Boston baseball environment.

So, what would be the concerns?

1. The Red Sox seemingly have their shortstop of the future, Xander Bogaerts, slated for introduction into the big leagues by ’14 (or ’15, at the latest).

2. As Reyes gets into his 30s, he becomes less and less likely to be worth $22 million a year. Again, the backloaded nature of his deal means that he will get paid more to produce less as he ages.

3. Reyes has an injury history. Up until the ’12 season, in which he played 160 games, the shortstop had missed considerable chunks of time, not playing more than 133 games in any of the three previous three seasons.

4. As is the case with Ellsbury, there is some concern that Reyes’ 11 season represents an outlier. The shortstop was spectacular in that (contract) season, winning the batting title (.337), while totaling an .877 OPS with 39 stolen bases in 126 games. But he has never approached such production before, or after. His career OPS+ is 107, only slightly better than league-average. As age diminishes his speed and defense, the competitive advantage he offers compared to shortstop peers will decline.

Worth a conversation, one which the Red Sox’ decision-makers were evidently participating in …

Should the Red Sox have made a stronger play to acquire Jose Reyes?

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  • Fair Question

    It appears that penny pinching Larry Lucchino’s strategy in the 2012 offseason is identical to his strategy in the 2011 offseason: bend over and take it you-know-where.

  • Anonymous

    After every somewhat notable MLB transaction, the rest of baseball gets to read about “How the Red Sox could’ve been on ___ deal…”,  “How so & so was almost a Red Sox”.  

    Hey Red Sox nation, fan boys & media lobbyists – It’s not always about you. 

    Also, Hi John Farrell!   Hope you still love your ‘dream job’ when you’re looking up in the standings at the team you left.  Good riddance. 

  • Dano50

    Yep.  That same exact “penny pinching” strategy that brought this team TWO world championships and went out and spent on Adrian Gonzalez…until that proved to be a mistake. You know…like everyone else…LL and the Red Sox make mistakes.  Thankfully they also try to correct those rather than stubbornly refuse to admit those.  Most of us can’t go through our lives without a blunder.  Of course when one’s life is as inconsequential as yours…few will notice.  Have a nice day FQ.

  • Dano50

    Hey Gary.  He’s not listening to your drunken mutterings.

  • Doug

    Gary, your stupidity only exceeds your ignorance!

  • foreverfaithful

    Stanton.

  • Leonfdu

    Mr Corrington should acted quicker…He is moving way too slow

  • Tyrant09

    red sox never pay for shortstops and they wont be starting anytime soon.. and the upcoming prospect is actually pretty damn good and alot cheaper.. spend some money on oh gee idk.. A PITCHER.. those are kind of important..

  • Timmy T

     Never pay for a SS?  Like those years we paid Renteria and Lugo to play for other teams?  Or the contract we gave to Scutaro? 

  • Anonymous

    Um, you do know that this is a Red Sox fan message board, right?  Do Red Sox fans take to Blue Jays message boards and say, “Hey quit talking so much about the Jays, it’s not always all about you, you know”?  Because that would sound pretty stupid.

  • http://twitter.com/Christophheerrr Chris Figueroa

    I don’t believe for a second A-Gon was a mistake. The Sox only traded him to be rid of Crawford, who I believe is going to make fans wish we hadn’t trade him very soon.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZVFM2HRNC5CTO2OUXD4XTX65O4 Dennis

     Is Iggy going to work with a hitting coach all winter? If not, why not? That should be Sox priority #1.

  • Bruinman86

    Glad they didn’t get Reyes.  Too much money for too many years.  We’d be back to where the sox were financially before the trade with the Dodgers.

  • http://twitter.com/TurdBandito Turdito Bandito

     You realize that this is a Boston sports writer right?  And that discussions did happen with the Bos. and Fla. front offices about Reyes….You picked the wrong story to spout your agenda of “wah they talk about xxx team too much”.

  • http://twitter.com/TurdBandito Turdito Bandito

    enjoy the 22 mil. middle aged Reyes though.  Trading for a couple big name players doesn’t suddenly make you world beaters, just ask the last 2 years of the Red Sox.

  • Bruinman86

    I’m seeing 5’11″ 186. I hope he’s taller than 5″8″ otherwise he may have issues with taller corners. But if he’s 5’11″, sounds like he could stretch the field.

  • Koby

    please do not sign this guy, ill take lloyd over this guy anyday, and giving up a 3rd pick dont do it

  • fatchance

    Yes, you are correct on the size

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