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Red Sox manager John Farrell: Why David Ross was a priority to sign, and ‘non-negotiable’ rules for Alfredo Aceves 11.23.12 at 11:29 am ET
By Alex Speier

John Farrell

Red Sox manager John Farrell, in an interview with the Red Sox Hot Stove Show on Thursday night, touched on a number of topics related to the Red Sox offseason, including detailing the process related to the hiring of the coaching staff, his expectations for reliever Alfredo Aceves, his expectations for the type of lineup that the Red Sox will feature, how John Lackey will be viewed entering spring training and how he views his role regarding work with pitchers with whom he has a history such as Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz and Daniel Bard.

Farrell, who has made no secret of his desire to implement an aggressive, up-tempo offensive style, also suggested that a corollary desire to shut down opponents’ running games played a role in the decision to sign catcher David Ross to a two-year, $6.2 million. The Sox in 2012 ranked 12th in the American League and 26th in the majors by throwing out just 20 percent of attempted base-stealers (well below the league average of 26 percent). That difficulty in controlling the running game of opponents has been a common theme over the last several years, including Farrell’s years as Red Sox pitching coach:

2012: 20 percent caught stealing; 12th in AL; 26th in MLB

2011: 24 percent caught stealing; 11th in AL; 23rd in MLB

2010: 20 percent caught stealing; 13th in AL; 29th in MLB

2009: 13 percent caught stealing; 14th in AL; 30th in MLB

2008: 25 percent caught stealing; 9th in AL; 19th in MLB

2007: 23 percent caught stealing; 10th in AL; 21st in MLB

Ross, meanwhile, has thrown out 37.5 percent of attempted base stealers over the last eight years, the second best percentage in the majors during that time to Cardinals catcher Yadier Molina.

“We brought David in to improve our team. Has he had a track record of being able to throw runners out? Yes he has. But he also brings a number of things that we’re looking for,” said Farrell. “He’s got leadership capabilities and qualities that fit well behind the plate in that position. He’s shown over the course of an entire career to be a very good game caller and to get the most out of pitchers on a given night.

“But on the bigger picture, in the bigger topic that you raise here, going back the last couple of years here [including with] myself as a pitching coach, we were not very good at controlling the running game. We have to become better at that. That will be a main point of emphasis in spring training, and looking back over the last couple of years, finding ways to do just that. It will be, I’m not going to say a hot spot, but a point of emphasis in spring training. The running game has come back to being employed not just in the AL East but across baseball as home run totals have dropped, the running game has become much more a part of it, and controlling it falls much more on the pitchers and catchers to control it and do the best job capable.”

More highlights of the interview are below. To listen to the complete Red Sox Hot Stove Show interview with Farrell, click here.

On the team’s likely approach of hiring two hitting coaches: The work responsible for that hitting instructor can be overwhelming at times. When you see the amount of video work that gets done for a given starter on a night, I really feel like the necessity for two guys exists and we’re likely to go with that concept. … Greg Colbrunn has been publicized, coming in Saturday, to sit and meet with him for an interview. Victor Rodriguez has done a good job as our hitting coordinator. I think that pool is starting to define itself a little bit more and hopefully in time we’ve got that final position filled.

On the importance that the team places on grinding at-bats that yield high pitch counts with the new hitting coach(es): A high priority. … The one thing that you raise, the ongoing debate, can you teach that grinding approach? Can you instill that in hitters at the big league level? Or have they shown a track record of that throughout their minor league career and ultimately get to the big leagues? I think hitters continually evolve. Let’s say we have a young hitter who’s had very good success throughout the minor leagues. I think when they get to the big league level and meet those initial challenges, they might expand the strike zone at times but over time they usually settle back into their performance level to level throughout the minor leagues. When you’re looking at a young player and you have to continually reinforce that overall approach — working the count, understanding the strike zone, battling with two strikes, working deep counts with the idea of forcing that starting pitching not only to elevate the pitch count but ideally get to the middle relief group sometime in that sixth or seventh inning, that’s where a lot of games are won and lost.

On contact with reliever Alfredo Aceves: We’ve had some initial conversations. They’ve been brief. He’s been in Mexico. There have been messages left either way, on both sides. To sit down and outline expectations here, I know that’s been done in the past and I know that will be done going forward, but this is also an extremely talented pitcher who can do some unique things from a physical standpoint. I think the one thing that we’re going to hold ourselves accountable to is the way we play the game, the way we respect one another in our uniform and that we work each night as a unit. To tear anything apart or to work against that, I can tell you, goes against all that we’re trying to put together here, not only talented players but guys who are trying to play the game the right way. …

Not knowing it first hand but seeing it and talking to others of what’s taken place, I think that the most important thing is that expectations are outlined with him, and I, for one, [need to] be very consistent with him. There are going to be some things that are non-negotiable. If certain situations arise, consequences may exist. Coming in with fresh eyes on him, being in the same uniform, I certainly want to give the benefit of the doubt to the situation, knowing that there’s some history here, but I think it’s important to be very candid and upfront here.

On his interaction with John Lackey: We’ve had multiple conversations. He’s in Dallas, working out at that API facility where a number of players work out. Will Middlebrooks is there as well. Coming out of lives games pitched in instructional league, he goes through what would be a normal offseaosn program for any pitcher. We’ll initiate a throwing program for the 15th of December and he’ll work, as all other pitchers, with no restrictions, so to speak, as we start to ramp up not only from bullpens to batting practice to games pitched. I think that in spring training, it will be much more clear to all of us that he’ll be ready to go right from the start of the season.

On Jon Lester, Clay Buchholz and Daniel Bard: This is more about the steps with each of the guys. My conversations with [pitching coach] Juan Nieves are centering around what we’ve seen when we compare video of a couple of years ago to maybe this most recent year, to last year, and you start to build your workplan. The conversations this winter are geared towards that. It’s a way that Juan can start building a relationship with those guys and he will travel to visit with guys as their throwing programs get under way so that when we set foot in Fort Myers, it’s not the first time that Juan has either talked with them or met with them personally. It allows us to kind of get ahead of the curve a little bit because spring training will be a key time for those guys. There are some fundamental adjustments that can be made. I said at the press conference, and this still holds true, they finished the year healthy and they finished the year with quite a bit of talent, and those are ingredients that should allow them to be successful pitchers as they have been in the past.

On how he’ll approach working with those pitchers with whom he’s worked before: The fact that there’s history here, that should not be turned away from, but by no means is that to say that the pitching coach isn’t going to have room to work. … Our working relationship, I look at it somewhat like you’ve got three people handling the pitching side of things — myself, Juan, Gary Tuck. That’s the case with any club. You’ve got the pitching coach and the bullpen coach overseeing 12 guys. To have a third person involved with some history, I think, can only enhance the conversation and outline the workplan to get back on track.

In looking at Red Sox players, who stands out? The one guy who’s come back from Tommy John is Junichi [Tazawa]. To see the way he’s come back from the rehab, seeing him live against us, not only the quality of the stuff but the power to his fastball, his split-finger, all the pitches that he had when he first came over from Japan, he’s more physically mature now than he was three or four years ago. The fact that he’s pitching with no restriction mentally that he might have been feeling with the discomfort in his arm, it’s impressive to see the way he attacked hitter and quality hitters that he was able to dominate at times. That’s the one guy who has made huge strides over the last couple of years.

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  • H Bouley

    Impressive stat on Ross throwing out baserunners, but I wonder how much of it was due to pitchers(unlike the sox’ staff) who excel at keeping a tight rein on runners. I know last season Lester not only lost command to home plate, but had real problems throwing to first base. Toward the end of the season he was so paranoid he completely stopped tossing to first no matter what.  

  • Paul

    Gary Tuck should have been fired. A failure on almost every count
    Throwing out Runners
    Getting pitchers ready to start a game
    backstabbing negative force

  • Jason

    I agree we should have replaced Tuck, worst first inning staff Ive ever seen, but he’s Tek’s ahole buddy…so figure… 

  • DanS is the best!

    Junichi to close!

  • Brian

     Tuck is widely respected throughout the industry as a catcher guru and would be able to pick his new job wherever he wanted.  Pinning the first inning struggles of a poor staff on him just shows how ignorant you are about his responsibilities.

  • Boston_Sports

    BOSOX are in bad shape. JF won’t change the club house culture in one season. JF won’t change the attitudes of some players in one season. JF will not get the BOSOX to the playoffs this season. He may very well finish in last place and the BOSOX will miss the playoffs for the 4th consecutive season. Fixing this team will take a few years.

  • Fed up

    Bet he wishes that he was still with the Blue Jays – a team committed to winning

  • Anonymous

    LOL…ur a joke or that was a joke…Im laughing either way

  • Anonymous

     What are you laughing at. It is probably a valid statement. Get used to it>

  • anguillaman3

    Wow…this should really make a huge difference next year..even the Orioles have a higher payroll now than the Sox.  So far next years team looks worse than the one that finished last in 2012. Fire Cherrington..now.

  • Elaine_Apthorp

    Chill, dude. Take a walk. Get some fresh air :-). It’s November. February is a long hot stove season away from today. And October is, pleasantly, a lot further down the road.

    A, Size of payroll does not in and of itself equal quality of team. Check the stats, bro. B, Cherrington will, I have no doubt, spend plenty of the owners’ dough on the ball club. He’s just highly unlikely to spend it on longterm deals with aging ballplayers. C, I’m all for giving the man a chance to build the roster that makes sense to him. He is a smart guy who knows a whole lot more than you and I do.

    The team will look a whole lot different to us in October than it can today. I’m betting it looks a whole lot better. And maybe without a massive number of new names on the40-man roster, either. We’ve got some very strong kids coming into their own and talented veterans priming for a bounce-back year and a whole new coaching staff and a couple of quality adds to the roster already. I’m enjoying the process as it unfolds.

  • anguillaman3

    The team is years away from competing…is there one team in the AL EAST that you think that is worse than the Sox?  They were 28′th in MLB in terms of starting pitching last season..how has that improved..on top of that they have replaced Cody Ross with GOMES..and are still missing one outfielder a shorstop and a closer.. The team looks very very bad..again, they could sign all the remaining free agents and still only move up one place in the standings.  Glad your enjoying the process…I’m not…Ross and Gomes..you enjoy that…YIKES.

  • Closer… ?

    Why isnt Bailey mentioned in this article?

  • YazLynnEvans

    I would love to see Tazawa given a chance to start.  

  • Jackson

     Whose Bailey?

  • JimDaytona

    I wonder id Farrell knows what happened to Bard?

  • JimDaytona

    You brought up something that Farrell and other Sox bigwigs are afriad to say and I agree with you. This is a last place team.

  • anguillaman3

    I feel that the move to unload AGON and Crawford and Beckett was a move that turned a good team into a bad one…we all could have lived with it if the Sox had a plan to re load with equal or better talent it is now clear that Cherrington really had no such plan…the thought that they “look out” to see what free agents will be on the market or what deals could be made after that one looks to be folly. So, we now have a team that is much worse without the guys they unloaded and is in fact getting worse with the subtraction of Cody Ross and the “additions” of GOMES ( is he better than Ross or Crawford) and the addition of yet another aging catcher who is a lifetime backup.

  • Rac Sliders’ abacus

    Love the focus on the things that mediocre teams say when they know they are not going to contend, in the meantime this is a big market team that has been out of the playoffs(never mind the world series) for four years. While doing some research on something else last night I bumped into the interesting factoid..that there is not one Toronto fan out there that misses Farrell..he lost the clubhouse..didn’t have any authority with the players..poor game management..but he’s the answer here? Oh well I guess all the manager fanatics of the past two years will get to see their little binky put to the test….oh and by the way we were a last place team last year. and the team above us got better(no matter how you want to spin the Toronto trade) and alls we have is the manager they did’nt want , a couple role players…and oh yeah I forgot..patience

  • Tonyfranco

    Tazawa is your future closer

  • Rickitymills

    I could not have said it better! These owners were handed one helluva team in 2003, and other than a couple of deals, they have squandered and dismantled it. There is nothing left of those teams, and it’s not looking any better. We got nothin’.

  • Rickitymills

    I would love to chill, but I have this acid in my stomache. There is nothing in Ben’s history that says the roster is going to get better. This team looks to be getting worse, and October WILL be different, as we will not win 69 games next year. In fact, I’ll make a prediction right now that they lose at least 100 games. Very strong kids coming into their own? Are you kidding me? Talented veterans priming for a bounse-back year? Are you kidding me? Have you seen the speed on our veterans fastballs? They’ve all lost a couple of MPH’s. You enjoy, while I remain home and change the channel.

  • Rickitymills

    Fixing this team will take a few decades…….and new owners and new management!

  • Rickitymills

    Correct again!!!

  • http://twitter.com/Zj_6 Zack Jones

    I disagree. he is widely regarded as one of the games best catching instructors and he improved Salty’s defense immensely over what it was. And besides, who didn’t stab valentine in the back?

  • http://twitter.com/Zj_6 Zack Jones

    Are you joking? You whined ALL last season about A-gon and you weren’t kind to beckett or crawford (for good reason) but now all of a sudden you come up with this? Unreal

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