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Terry Francona on Red Sox ownership in book: ‘I don’t think they love baseball’ 01.15.13 at 3:47 pm ET
By Rob Bradford

An excerpt from Terry Francona's new book will run in Sports Illustrated later this week. (Sports Illustrated)

In an exclusive excerpt from the upcoming book, “Francona: The Red Sox Years” (to be released Jan. 22) released to Sports Illustrated, former Red Sox manager Terry Francona discusses his perception of ownership’s priorities and motivation during Francona’s final few years in Boston.

The book, which is co-authored by Dan Shaughnessy of the Boston Globe, has Francona remembering how the Red Sox’ ownership group hired marketing consultants after the 2010 season. According to the passage in SI, the findings of the consultants resulted in a push by the ownership group to gain more star power.

Former Red Sox general manager Theo Epstein is quoted on Page 51 as saying, “They told us we didn’t have any marketable players. We need some sexy guys. Talk about the tail wagging the dog. … We’d become too big. It was the farthest thing removed from what we set out to be.”

Francona says in the book that the decision to fire him was already made prior to a meeting held one day after the 2011 season in which ownership told him to “think about if he wanted to come back.”

Regarding the Red Sox’ ownership group, Francona says in the book, “I don’t think they love baseball. I think they like baseball. It’s revenue, and I know that’s their right and their interest because they’re owners. … it’s still more of a toy or hobby for them. It’s not their blood. They’re going to come in and out of baseball. It’s different for me. Baseball is my life.”

The excerpt will run in this week’s edition of Sports Illustrated.

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  • http://twitter.com/Momster14 Momster

    If Valentine said same thing ,He get rubbished.

  • http://twitter.com/Momster14 Momster

    If Valentine said same thing ,He get rubbished.

  • anguillaman3

    The never ending Theo excuses for why he sucked over his last 3 to 4 years. Now we have an even worse GM in Bumbling Ben.

  • Higgs

    Seriously, tell us something we didn’t know. Have you ever heard Tom Werner try to talk about baseball? It’s embarrassing. It’s like listening to my wife try to break down the rotation. He doesn’t know about it, nor does he care. This ownership group is an absolute joke.  The good news, in case no one has noticed, is that they have gone into hiding because they know they have milked the team for all it’s worth. They will be for sale very soon, and these clowns, who probably never stepped foot in Boston before they bought the team, can stop acting like they love the city or care anything about its baseball tradition.  

  • Higgs

    Seriously, tell us something we didn’t know. Have you ever heard Tom Werner try to talk about baseball? It’s embarrassing. It’s like listening to my wife try to break down the rotation. He doesn’t know about it, nor does he care. This ownership group is an absolute joke.  The good news, in case no one has noticed, is that they have gone into hiding because they know they have milked the team for all it’s worth. They will be for sale very soon, and these clowns, who probably never stepped foot in Boston before they bought the team, can stop acting like they love the city or care anything about its baseball tradition.  

  • Dansdrs

    Tito shut up & go to Cleveland

  • Dansdrs

    Tito shut up & go to Cleveland

  • Dansdrs

    Tito shut up & go to Cleveland

  • Dansdrs

    Tito shut up & go to Cleveland

  • Dansdrs

    Tito shut up & go to Cleveland

  • Dansdrs

    Tito shut up & go to Cleveland

  • Brian

    The difference is Tito isn’t the manager anymore, Valentine put needless negative publicity on his team.  Seriously, the people who try to defend Valentine in any way, shape or form are worse than Dan Duquette supporters…worse than Pete Carroll supporters…hell, they are worse than Jimy Williams supporters.  He did a terrible job in Boston, period.

  • Brian

    The difference is Tito isn’t the manager anymore, Valentine put needless negative publicity on his team.  Seriously, the people who try to defend Valentine in any way, shape or form are worse than Dan Duquette supporters…worse than Pete Carroll supporters…hell, they are worse than Jimy Williams supporters.  He did a terrible job in Boston, period.

  • Brian

    The difference is Tito isn’t the manager anymore, Valentine put needless negative publicity on his team.  Seriously, the people who try to defend Valentine in any way, shape or form are worse than Dan Duquette supporters…worse than Pete Carroll supporters…hell, they are worse than Jimy Williams supporters.  He did a terrible job in Boston, period.

  • Brian

    The difference is Tito isn’t the manager anymore, Valentine put needless negative publicity on his team.  Seriously, the people who try to defend Valentine in any way, shape or form are worse than Dan Duquette supporters…worse than Pete Carroll supporters…hell, they are worse than Jimy Williams supporters.  He did a terrible job in Boston, period.

  • Brian

    The difference is Tito isn’t the manager anymore, Valentine put needless negative publicity on his team.  Seriously, the people who try to defend Valentine in any way, shape or form are worse than Dan Duquette supporters…worse than Pete Carroll supporters…hell, they are worse than Jimy Williams supporters.  He did a terrible job in Boston, period.

  • Bruinman86

    Perhaps, but the general public probably would have believed him just the same.  Sox fans are likely to believe most negative things against ownership since they have operated like a  business machine, fronted by a BS filled PR Machine that no one believes.

  • Bruinman86

    Perhaps, but the general public probably would have believed him just the same.  Sox fans are likely to believe most negative things against ownership since they have operated like a  business machine, fronted by a BS filled PR Machine that no one believes.

  • Bruinman86

    Perhaps, but the general public probably would have believed him just the same.  Sox fans are likely to believe most negative things against ownership since they have operated like a  business machine, fronted by a BS filled PR Machine that no one believes.

  • Bruinman86

    Perhaps, but the general public probably would have believed him just the same.  Sox fans are likely to believe most negative things against ownership since they have operated like a  business machine, fronted by a BS filled PR Machine that no one believes.

  • Bruinman86

    Perhaps, but the general public probably would have believed him just the same.  Sox fans are likely to believe most negative things against ownership since they have operated like a  business machine, fronted by a BS filled PR Machine that no one believes.

  • Bruinman86

    Perhaps, but the general public probably would have believed him just the same.  Sox fans are likely to believe most negative things against ownership since they have operated like a  business machine, fronted by a BS filled PR Machine that no one believes.

  • askj

    Wow. Imagine how many playoff appearances and World Series they would have if it was “in their blood.” Probably like 8 or something!

  • askj

    Wow. Imagine how many playoff appearances and World Series they would have if it was “in their blood.” Probably like 8 or something!

  • askj

    Wow. Imagine how many playoff appearances and World Series they would have if it was “in their blood.” Probably like 8 or something!

  • askj

    Wow. Imagine how many playoff appearances and World Series they would have if it was “in their blood.” Probably like 8 or something!

  • askj

    Wow. Imagine how many playoff appearances and World Series they would have if it was “in their blood.” Probably like 8 or something!

  • Sdfasd

    I’m SURE Terry Francona was vehemently opposed to the “big star sexy” signings like Crawford, Lackey, trading for Gonzalez, etc.

    This stuff is sub-literate tabloid revenge garbage. “WRITTEN BY DAN SHAUGHNESSY. ” Enough said.

  • Sdfasd

    I’m SURE Terry Francona was vehemently opposed to the “big star sexy” signings like Crawford, Lackey, trading for Gonzalez, etc.

    This stuff is sub-literate tabloid revenge garbage. “WRITTEN BY DAN SHAUGHNESSY. ” Enough said.

  • Sdfasd

    I’m SURE Terry Francona was vehemently opposed to the “big star sexy” signings like Crawford, Lackey, trading for Gonzalez, etc.

    This stuff is sub-literate tabloid revenge garbage. “WRITTEN BY DAN SHAUGHNESSY. ” Enough said.

  • Sdfasd

    I’m SURE Terry Francona was vehemently opposed to the “big star sexy” signings like Crawford, Lackey, trading for Gonzalez, etc.

    This stuff is sub-literate tabloid revenge garbage. “WRITTEN BY DAN SHAUGHNESSY. ” Enough said.

  • Brian

    Honestly though, how many owners have “baseball in their blood”?  The few that do are meddling Jerry Jones type owners who get too involved in their team and think they know what they’re doing.  There is no such thing as an owner who wants to win above making a profit AND is able to take a hands off approach and let the baseball people run the team.  The fact is, this ownership has opened revenue streams to the point where they are in the top 3 in revenue, yet the Harrington/Yawkee ownership before them had a tough time cracking top 10.

    Also, Theo has all the motive in the world to deflect blame.  Why wouldn’t he?  He doesn’t want to be held responsible for assembling a flawed and overpaid core.  When he left here for the Chicago job, he claimed the team was set up to contend for years to come, and said that’s the reason he was able to leave Boston.  When he left in the gorilla suit, he did so to get more power.  Even if the owners wanted “flashy names”, Theo could’ve used his power to overrule them.  He didn’t care, because he didn’t have a long term stake in the team, he wanted the short term rewards of these foolish commitments.  The same people here who bash Shaugnessy and Tito will now take everything at 100% face value on this, because their confirmation bias runs rampant, and they want to bash the Red Sox owners.  It is what it is.

  • Jim Piersall

    We know about the owners and their hired snake Lucchino.  I want to hear about the crap Manny pulled.

  • Sicko

    Is any of this stuff new?!? I love the fact Theo is passing the buck on his bad decisions and I like that ownership wanted him to spend money. I thought Tito was fantastic as a manager but I think he just got stale here as most managers eventually do. The players took advantage of him and a change needed to be made. Ownership should have just fired him and not worried about how it looked or the PR fallout.

    Ownership does need to take the blame for the “leaks” that sprung up about Francona on his way out the door.

  • Sicko

    Is any of this stuff new?!? I love the fact Theo is passing the buck on his bad decisions and I like that ownership wanted him to spend money. I thought Tito was fantastic as a manager but I think he just got stale here as most managers eventually do. The players took advantage of him and a change needed to be made. Ownership should have just fired him and not worried about how it looked or the PR fallout.

    Ownership does need to take the blame for the “leaks” that sprung up about Francona on his way out the door.

  • Sicko

    Is any of this stuff new?!? I love the fact Theo is passing the buck on his bad decisions and I like that ownership wanted him to spend money. I thought Tito was fantastic as a manager but I think he just got stale here as most managers eventually do. The players took advantage of him and a change needed to be made. Ownership should have just fired him and not worried about how it looked or the PR fallout.

    Ownership does need to take the blame for the “leaks” that sprung up about Francona on his way out the door.

  • Sicko

    Is any of this stuff new?!? I love the fact Theo is passing the buck on his bad decisions and I like that ownership wanted him to spend money. I thought Tito was fantastic as a manager but I think he just got stale here as most managers eventually do. The players took advantage of him and a change needed to be made. Ownership should have just fired him and not worried about how it looked or the PR fallout.

    Ownership does need to take the blame for the “leaks” that sprung up about Francona on his way out the door.

  • Sicko

    Is any of this stuff new?!? I love the fact Theo is passing the buck on his bad decisions and I like that ownership wanted him to spend money. I thought Tito was fantastic as a manager but I think he just got stale here as most managers eventually do. The players took advantage of him and a change needed to be made. Ownership should have just fired him and not worried about how it looked or the PR fallout.

    Ownership does need to take the blame for the “leaks” that sprung up about Francona on his way out the door.

  • Sicko

    Is any of this stuff new?!? I love the fact Theo is passing the buck on his bad decisions and I like that ownership wanted him to spend money. I thought Tito was fantastic as a manager but I think he just got stale here as most managers eventually do. The players took advantage of him and a change needed to be made. Ownership should have just fired him and not worried about how it looked or the PR fallout.

    Ownership does need to take the blame for the “leaks” that sprung up about Francona on his way out the door.

  • Phil Plantier

    I understand it Shaughnessy, and for that reason I probably wouldn’t buy it.  However, I love baseball and the more I can learn about the inner dealings, it can make me hate it or love it more.  Either way, it’s fascinating.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Charlie4901 Charles R. Costa

    You don’t know what you are talking about.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Charlie4901 Charles R. Costa

    You don’t know what you are talking about.

  • mike

    looks like tito is trying to start something.  still sour over the firing maybe?  why wait 2 years to vent.  looks like he is not over it yet.  oh well, we will see how long it takes the indians to figure out that the sox did the right thing getting rid of tito

  • mike

    looks like tito is trying to start something.  still sour over the firing maybe?  why wait 2 years to vent.  looks like he is not over it yet.  oh well, we will see how long it takes the indians to figure out that the sox did the right thing getting rid of tito

  • mike

    looks like tito is trying to start something.  still sour over the firing maybe?  why wait 2 years to vent.  looks like he is not over it yet.  oh well, we will see how long it takes the indians to figure out that the sox did the right thing getting rid of tito

  • mike

    looks like tito is trying to start something.  still sour over the firing maybe?  why wait 2 years to vent.  looks like he is not over it yet.  oh well, we will see how long it takes the indians to figure out that the sox did the right thing getting rid of tito

  • bench warmer

    Jim Piersall, I agree, the Manny stories intrigue me.

  • bench warmer

    Jim Piersall, I agree, the Manny stories intrigue me.

  • bench warmer

    Jim Piersall, I agree, the Manny stories intrigue me.

  • bench warmer

    Jim Piersall, I agree, the Manny stories intrigue me.

  • Tig o’l Bitties

    Larry L, is that you?

  • Tig o’l Bitties

    Larry L, is that you?

  • Tig o’l Bitties

    Larry L, is that you?

  • Tig o’l Bitties

    Larry L, is that you?

  • Tig o’l Bitties

    Larry L, is that you?

  • Tig o’l Bitties

    Larry L, is that you?

  • Izzie Nutz

    It’s just another part of his severance benefits. Write a tell-all and collect another $2 million. The guy deserves it.  Managers always get the rat droppings compared to the “sexy” superstars.  $3-4 million is a lot of money, for sure, but not when your job is to control a bunch of prima donnas making $13-20 million a year, several of which only play every five days. He deserves to make as much as he can off of his Red Sox association.

  • Izzie Nutz

    It’s just another part of his severance benefits. Write a tell-all and collect another $2 million. The guy deserves it.  Managers always get the rat droppings compared to the “sexy” superstars.  $3-4 million is a lot of money, for sure, but not when your job is to control a bunch of prima donnas making $13-20 million a year, several of which only play every five days. He deserves to make as much as he can off of his Red Sox association.

  • i still believe

    yeah they hired a guy who won TWO WS in 4 years. Brought this team and organization back to the spot light. So he was the manager who had the greatest collapse in MLB history, it happens, baseball is a crazy sport. A lot of things had to go wrong and a lot of things had to go right for other teams. Perhaps a new venue is what Tito needed. I’m still a Sox fan and will always root for them but i do wish him the best of luck. When you leave a place and people are throwing who you are into question, you would be pissed too. 

  • i still believe

    yeah they hired a guy who won TWO WS in 4 years. Brought this team and organization back to the spot light. So he was the manager who had the greatest collapse in MLB history, it happens, baseball is a crazy sport. A lot of things had to go wrong and a lot of things had to go right for other teams. Perhaps a new venue is what Tito needed. I’m still a Sox fan and will always root for them but i do wish him the best of luck. When you leave a place and people are throwing who you are into question, you would be pissed too. 

  • i still believe

    yeah they hired a guy who won TWO WS in 4 years. Brought this team and organization back to the spot light. So he was the manager who had the greatest collapse in MLB history, it happens, baseball is a crazy sport. A lot of things had to go wrong and a lot of things had to go right for other teams. Perhaps a new venue is what Tito needed. I’m still a Sox fan and will always root for them but i do wish him the best of luck. When you leave a place and people are throwing who you are into question, you would be pissed too. 

  • i still believe

    yeah they hired a guy who won TWO WS in 4 years. Brought this team and organization back to the spot light. So he was the manager who had the greatest collapse in MLB history, it happens, baseball is a crazy sport. A lot of things had to go wrong and a lot of things had to go right for other teams. Perhaps a new venue is what Tito needed. I’m still a Sox fan and will always root for them but i do wish him the best of luck. When you leave a place and people are throwing who you are into question, you would be pissed too. 

  • i still believe

    yeah they hired a guy who won TWO WS in 4 years. Brought this team and organization back to the spot light. So he was the manager who had the greatest collapse in MLB history, it happens, baseball is a crazy sport. A lot of things had to go wrong and a lot of things had to go right for other teams. Perhaps a new venue is what Tito needed. I’m still a Sox fan and will always root for them but i do wish him the best of luck. When you leave a place and people are throwing who you are into question, you would be pissed too. 

  • Ronjb441960

                Nobody can take away from Tito   his teams won 2 world series in Boston  , To me it was a thrill  growing up watching Red Sox baseball   Tito is king in my eyes  just  like Bill B.  for the Pats…….

  • Ronjb441960

                Nobody can take away from Tito   his teams won 2 world series in Boston  , To me it was a thrill  growing up watching Red Sox baseball   Tito is king in my eyes  just  like Bill B.  for the Pats…….

  • Ronjb441960

                Nobody can take away from Tito   his teams won 2 world series in Boston  , To me it was a thrill  growing up watching Red Sox baseball   Tito is king in my eyes  just  like Bill B.  for the Pats…….

  • rogerroger

    no, it’s still a lot of money. :-)

  • rogerroger

    no, it’s still a lot of money. :-)

  • rogerroger

    no, it’s still a lot of money. :-)

  • henrytheweasel

    Just as we suspected all along.

  • henrytheweasel

    Just as we suspected all along.

  • patti

    Is red sox management insane? As a woman i am offended if what francona said management said about soap opera &good looking players is all women want to see,. Management needs to go to diversity training and talk to  female baseball fans.  The female sportscasters in baseball should come down hard on Red sox management  I would think twice about spending money @ fenway or watching basbeball on Tv if management doesn’t apologize to their female fans

    ..

  • Mal Tempo

    Heads will roll when King John Henry VIII reads this.

  • Mal Tempo

    Heads will roll when King John Henry VIII reads this.

  • Mal Tempo

    Heads will roll when King John Henry VIII reads this.

  • Mal Tempo

    Heads will roll when King John Henry VIII reads this.

  • Mal Tempo

    Heads will roll when King John Henry VIII reads this.

  • mr. peanut

    hopefully they will sell the team now

  • tom yawkey

    what tradition are you talking about? One of the biggest loser’s in baseball, with 86 years without a championship? Everybody for years know these guys care about three things and three things only making bricks, the sellout streak, and most of all making money, not winning championships. That’s why they have always called the Yankees the evil empire, because unlike the sox the Yankees are about one thing and one thing only Winning championships, and that is why they have 27 of them. and when you have the luxury of the dumbest fans in baseball who will fill the park for a last place team, there is no reason to improve, because guess what? you can’t fit anymore people in the park. Francona is spot on, and was given the shaft from owners whom he delivered 2 championships. I hope this book exposes these phonies once and for all

  • BARA20032010

     yes i absolutely agree with u he is an outsider AND HOWW PHUCKEN DARE THIS PIECE OF CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THIS TEEAM. THANK U FOR SPEAKING UP

  • Fab4ever

    If you read the article, it’s kind of taking Theo off the hook…and come on about Ben…give the kid a chance…from what it looks like, it’s far from “sex appeal”…no big names, no long term deals…..If this team is winning, I hope you’ll come back off the bridge….

  • Fab4ever

    Is it Theo passing the buck or is it Tito telling the story? Sounds to me like Tito is saying Theo wasn’t for these deals…..

  • fromtheshire

    More Red Sox ugliness! Time for a new owner, fresh attitude and a dose of reality! For love of the game…

  • Linda Austin

    Tito is not off to a good start with his CYA tour. Neither is Theo.
    Say what you want about Lucchino and Henry but their love for baseball is lifelong and genuine and well known among baseball people.

    And didn’t we hear for years how Adrian Gonzalez had a Viagra-like effect on Theo Epstein??
    Epstein coveted Gonzo but now the spin is how the owners forced him to make that trade??

    Watch and see how the Boston media swallow this fish tale whole. 

  • Mike Jolin

    Good for Tito!

  • AL34

    When the man is right, he is right. The management/ownership has turned into a bunch of buffoons since Tito was fired.

  • AL34

    Well said.

  • Tmzitts

    sour grapevines ? who would want to purchase terry’s tale of woes, any loser could have managed the 2004 & 7 teams to titles as the big pockets purchased the team that paid you over $10 mill for babysitting the steroid induced idiots while us working stiffs try to make enough $ to buy a hot dog.

  • Pedro

    Just like one of the dumbest fans in sports to call the greatest manager in franchise history a loser. The only idiot i see is you who still paid to go watch a last place team. Have fun watching another last place finish. Sweet Caroline

  • StL Red Sox Fan

    A lot of owners try and buy teams. You still have to play the games and manage players with different personalities.  The coaching staff, front office, and players work hard to win games and try to go to the playoffs. 

     If you got an ax to grind that’s fine but let’s not talk crazy.

  • StL Red Sox Fan

    I think it worked both ways with ownership and Epstein with Gonzalez.  I think the truth for some things are in the middle. 

    The Boston media of course will love it. They need ratings for TV and people to buy the newspapers. It is the dead part of the season.

  • Anonymous

    If I owned The Red Sox I wouldn’t own a race team and soccor team. The Red Sox would be the ONLY team I’d own.

  • soxsince78

    Henry’s getting ready to sell which is why they are signing free agents to short term contracts and holding on to their minor leaguers and playing them up at talented. Increasing market value.

  • Pedro

    You just made Francona’s point they don’t care about any of that stuff except if it is a money making business. Think of this? Fenway is sold out no matter if they are in first or last place. So why would they care if they win or lose? They can’t sell anymore tickets, they want to give the fans the illusion they want to win. So they put on this spin, and all the fans buy into it. Does any fan really think they will be competive in that division when everybody else has gotten better and the Sox have not, they don’t even have a first baseman. The Sox have not won a playoff game in almost 6 years!!! They have the highest average ticket prices in the majors, for a last place team. These clowns are laughing all the way to the bank

  • ziggy61

    Why can this be not true?
    New ownership comes in balls to the wall, gets a taste & then goes for the buck$.
    I believe it all.
    This ownership is still doing it now & YOU FANS WHO PAY TO GO TO THE PARK are the reason they get away with it.
    Either PINK HATS or IDIOTS>
    When will you learn? Its all about the revenue,not our interest!

  • anguillaman3

    I like the way you put that..very good.

  • Tchuyoyo

    The truth is in the RESULTS! This ownership gave the fans TWO World Series teams already. How many World Series did the (I LOVE BASEBALL) Yawkeys give to the fans?? Hmmm? a guess, anyone? A lot of Boston fans went to the grave and never saw a championship – just years of heartbreak – thanks to a tight-spending Yawkey ownership. YAWKEYS SUCKED!  Tito needs to MOVE ON. He lost the team at the end of his run. Letting Becket pull his cancer act $h*t in the clubhouse was Tito’s fault. And remember, Theo had a Gonzo crush ever since Theo was with the Padres office. And John Henry did NOT want Crawford. Remember he had to smooth it over with Crawford that he just had doubts about loading the lineup with lefties – but he trusted his baseball ops people (Theo) and OK’d the Crawford contract? Tito’s book garbage about ownership making Theo get these guys is B.S. co-written by the slimiest journalist in Boston – Dan Shaughnessy. I won’t buy or read this garbage. And I am only interested right now in the 2013 seasson – beginning with spring training in Ft. Myers. It’s about the players, people.

  • http://www.facebook.com/pete.lincoln.338 Pete Lincoln

    Its only been a year and change, it only seems a lot longer after the Bobby V experience.  It takes time to write a book and get it published.

    All he did was call the owners guys who like baseball and good owners, but not loving the game like him.  And also telling us they read marketing reports and care about revenue and ratings.  Shocking stuff.. If that’s starting something or sour grapes I will eat my hat.

    Remember, this is a team that smeared him with unfounded allegations of drug abuse on the way out.  He would be within his rights to attack, but it’s not really in his DNA.

    Tito also said he never said he “lost control of  the team” in the meeting and that this was a Werner fabrication (my words, not his).  The Boston media ignores this one, but it’s on the ESPN story.

  • Tmzitts

    the sox are all about drama, that’s why they’re gearing their team to the pink hats as they try to increase ratings.  the sox could learn from the patriots – keep your flapping trapping shut.  if the owner want to increase revenue, they’d build a real ball park and quit putting band aids on the fenway trashole.  tom yawkey – glad to see you came out of your box as you’re the most clueless owner ever on the planet.  sox are dead, orioles and buck will be world series champs in 2013 when they beat the nats in 7 games.

  • Cannon4est

     The only way I think anybody was defending Valentine was this: he, while being an all around lame manager for the Red Sox, was not to blame for the problems he inherited. While he may not have handled the issues that were already present in Sox clubhouse in the best way, one can not blame him for their existence. And although Valentine really, really sucked, the Red Sox were not built to be a winning team last year regardless of who was the manager. The Red Sox have lacked real chemistry since 2009 really, and as Tito says, that blame has to fall on the ownership and general management.

  • acrossalloceans

     With everything said, it seems perfectly in line with everything we’ve seen the past few years. It went from developing and signing in a smart way to singing crowd pleasing players. It would seem that they are trying to break this terrible habit with a lot of the signings this season but then again its hard to tell. So many fans as well as the media pegged Farrell as the new manager so it ultimately seemed inevitable. It just seems the team needs to start ignoring the idiotic / impatient media and fanbase and focus on whats best for the team, not what is “marketable”

  • Jwing3399

    here’s what makes very little sense to me…. fans liked Beltre and VMart ….. no one in the baseball referenced charisma and crawford or agon in the same sentence….. so, if it was all about marketing …. why bring in those two?

  • Quilve6115

    two goof-ball bumbling billionaires running the red sox –pathetic. obviously neither has ever come close to playing a sport–i bet they both throw like girls. hey warner and henry time for you to move on and go do something your constituents would enjoy–perhaps a Rosanne Reunion show. go Indians!

  • Utahskisox

    Red Sox owners/management more concerned with image instead of substance???? Shocker!! Lol!

  • Johnny Spygate

    You people are funny.  No team has won more World Series than the Henry’s team in the past decade, yet you’re still ripping the guy.  Oh no, he wants to win AND make money??!!  Can’t have that.  
    No wonder the rest of the country can’t stand Red Sox fans

  • Quilve6115

     you are missing the point big time–when JH. LL and TW got directly involved in baseball opps–what happened–LAST PLACE!!!
     JS (pinkhat)??

  • Anonymous

    Unbelievable!  Some Idiot sticking up for Bobby V, the worse Sox manager since Pinky Higgins.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry that your lack of baseball knowledge is all over your post.  Go back to baseball 101 and this time try to graduate.

  • Anonymous

    How about YOU?   Do us all a favor and stop posting your inane comments.

  • Anonymous

    Not funny!  In fact just another stupid comment.

  • Anonymous

    Enough said by you—semi literate slob!

  • Fab4ever

    …and folks just LOVE the NY Yankees…..delusional as all get go…look out your window and you’ll see bright sunshine today John…not a snowflake in your midst…what a toad …

  • Fab4ever

    He doesn’t care what you have to say in rebuttal to his subjective and envious BS….it’s apparent each and every post….

  • Anonymous

    While I agree with what he’s saying, it just comes across as really petty for him to come out and say all this.

  • Herman

    How about somebody asking Terry Francona why he didn’t have the team in shape coming out of spring training in 2011 when they lost 15 of 16 in Spring training and then proceeded to have a horrific April.  They were dead dog tired in September of 2011 when they lost 20 games because they were out of shape.  His blame game is old news and any attempt to deflect responsibility away from himself is typical Francona.  He will do about as good in Cleveland as Belichek did.

  • http://www.facebook.com/melody.mckinstrie.1 Melody McKinstrie

    Dan Shaughnessy, the curly mopped mope as a co-author is probably responsible for the tone of the book.  I mean the guy gives the grumpy cat a run for his money/catnip.

  • Uncle Buck

    ?  I will assume you were intoxicated or incapacitated in some way when you attempted to write your post.  How many World Series did Valentine win while he was here ?  Are you stoned or just stupid ?

  • Kman1020

    I have and will always respect and appreciate what Tito did as a manager here. I do believe how he was railroaded was wrong and even when he did not sandbag the organization and took the high road was a class move. I don’t think he should abandon that position now. He has the right to say what he wants and people have the right to buy the book. I just think he needs to move on and we as fans have to move on as well. Nothing good is going to come from mudslinging. It’s no secret that the Henry Group has other interests and Tito said, “I think they like baseball.” Now all the pursists are going to say they don’t care about baseball or the organization which I don’t think its true. Shaugnessy just cannot leave well enough alone.

  • Uncle Buck

    You should change your ID to joker to spare yourself the ridicule.  After all, I suggest you are the only one that takes your contributions here seriously.  I can understand your excitement thought, I hear Arod get’s his surgery today !  Yay !  Let the good times roll in Gotham.

  • Capecodrt

    Don’t forget that it was Werner who tore up an outstanding team in San Diego in 1993. He dumped Fed Mggriff and Gary Sheffield,among others.

  • Capecodrt

    Terry is full of crap. He admits that he couldn’t reach the players. That was the problem, and why he had to go. Sour grapes is what you get from him. In Cleveland,he won’t have to deal with egos like David Ortiz,but they will still be an awful team.

  • Capecodrt

    Theo is another one. Shouldn’t he be concentrating on the improving the Cubs..

  • Capecodrt

    Headline: Red Sox not in on any pitchers. How could that be? Do they expect to win with Bucholtz,Lackey,Lester,Dempster and Doubront. They don’t now yet, if Lackey can come back.
    Why aren’t they all over Kyle Lohse?

  • Creationvr

    Look,  Like most teams in any sport, most owners know only enought about the sport to get by.  However, and I say this not to defend owners, the fate of any team is not in who owns the team, but how the team plays the game.  Case in point, John Henry bought the Marlins from Wayne Huizenga at the end of the 1998 season and sold them in 2002.  In 2003 Marlins won a WS as a wild card team.  It was not management that won that game as the Marlins had one of the lowest paid rosters and made up mostly of rookie players after just being sold.  Since 2002, the Marlins were sold, and Henry bought the Red Sox in the same year.  With that in mind, we aquired Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell from that same Marlins team, and in 2007 put together a Cinderella season by becoming the first team in Baseball history to win a WS after being down 3-0 in the ALCS championship series against one of baseballs most over-paid and over-rated, but well respected franchises (Yankees).  It was not mamagement that won us that WS in 2007 and again in 2009, but the passion and heart of all the players.  Players that know what it meant to play for the love of the game.  Since then, key players important to the team became spoiled bratts and whiny babies.  Most spent their time drinking, getting fat and milking their injuries for everything it was worth, rather that keeping the goal in mind.  That goal being to win a World Championship and once again become that team we all respected so much in 2007 and 2009.

    HEART and SOUL of the PLAYER is what WINS not management. 

  • Cfcbaseball

    Can Francona go away already?  Why is he still crying about the red sox doesn’t he have a new job.  If I was a Cleveland fan I’d be asking if this guy has the mental capacity to let go and actually manage the Cleveland game.  I don’t remember Francona saying hey Theo don’t get me Gonzalez, Crawford, etc. and dont spend all your money I just want the young guys.  what a hypocrit he owes these guys everything he has, its not like he was at the top of the managerial wish list when he was hired.  And he didn’t complain about taking the highest salary of all managers his last few years did he?  I like these owners and alwasy have I love the red sox but now being in NY i see why other people can’t stand our fans and press all they do is whine about everything.

  • Schwank

    Normally I would agree.  But we all know Terry as a standup guy.  There must have been more there to motivate him to write the book.  I’m sure $$$, and the writers perserverence were motivators, but when he left there was some hard feelings.  Theo left too.  It’s probably not all roses there. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Richard-Walsh/1050485483 John Richard Walsh

    John Henry/Tom Werner are shopping Red Flops for $2 billion which is what the hapless Dodgers sold for. That is why clueless Ben is getting past prime and injured players for 2 year contracts overpaying  for the short contracts. No money in baseball because Bud Selig stole all the revenue possibilities John Henry stated. Soccer in Europe offers possibilities to make money.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Richard-Walsh/1050485483 John Richard Walsh

    Manny Ramirez and David Ortiz won 2 world series. They got rid of Ramirez and fell into AL East cellar. FranCOMA had nothing to do with it.

  • Nyli

    They’ll be near or at the bottom for the next few yrs., so who cares.

  • Bill

    The GLOBE, Mumbles and MLB brought us these ownership losers. Tito brought us 2 world championships. They were more interested in glorifying a decrapidated ballpark, and signing sexy AdrianBetsy Gonzalez and Carl Crawful 2 draw the pink hats. Now, with less than a month 2 spring training, WHO’S ON FIRST ?

  • David

     When they sell the team, and rathole, and Jacobs sells the Garden and B’s,  NESN may increase ratings.

  • Capecodrt

     Higgs, i hope you are right. These Bozos don’t care,while the chief executive got so bored with the team, he turned to another sport in another country.

  • Capecodrt

     Ah Ha! I knew it wouldn’t belong before someone to a shot at Dan Shaughnessy,who loves the Red Sox as much as any of us do,and grew up rooting for them like we did.. Comes from this area, and tells it like it is instead of these varnished excuse pieces we get here from the head writer,who laps up everything the team tells him.

  • Capecodrt

     How about the the numbers Manny brought here.

  • Matt

    The Redsox ownership has been the biggest joke in this town the last few years. Doing everything from “buy a brick!” and “come get your gift certificate for 40% off all team store items” to having an 8 year anny for the 2004 WS team. Seriously? Who celebrates 8 years as a milestone unless it’s a wedding anny or some sort of school reunion? What a joke. And the whole “we turned Fenway into a living museum” crap. This ownership thinks that the fans are idiots that will always show up and they spit in your faces by selling you stupid items (like bricks) at decent prices, all while laughing behind your back about what an idiot you are. They care more about ratings, PR and the last dollar than the product on the field and putting together a winning team.

    Oh, and stop playing “sweet Caroline” when the sox are losing 12-4 late in the game when there’s less than 20,000 fans in the stands. playing it in that situation falls exactly into the whole “living museum” garbage, they’re just cartering for pinkhats. There’s nothing more Pinkhat than that except when Mikey Adams pretends to be a huge hockey expert/fan and plays the Hartford whalers intro, when the guy doesn’t mention the word “hockey” in a sentence until every April, at the earliest. Oh, and stop trying to promote the “sellout” streak. It’s sad. Almost as sad as tickets 5 rows behind home plate going for $4 just two hours before the first pitch. Anyone remember the bag man who was 4 rows behind home plate last year? That was the best part of the entire game, and that does not say much.That letter that Larry wrote to season ticket holders was a complete joke.

    Those who want a lot of tickets, please, don’t go. They are stealing money for you while you watch the 3-ring circus that they’ve put together. It’s not a baseball team, it is a 3-ring circus…and a mediocre one at that. Boycott Fenway and let your voices be heard.

  • Tonyfranco

    Because Lohse will cost far more than he is worth both in $ and lost pick.  Sorry, I’d stay away from Lohse.

  • Tonyfranco

    Frankly, I don’t see anything controversial or troubling about Tito’s comment.  Are the Sox owners baseball rats like Tito, no.  Not many are.  But that doesn’t preclude them from wanting to build a championship caliber organization and team.  In any business you  have to look at more than the current year.  So what may appear to be a non-competitive team in 2013 is really positioning itself for a better opportunity down the road.  That doesn’t mean they are throwing in the towel or just after the $$.

    As far as “marketable” players, there is a valid reason for targeting those players.  HOWEVER, it is not at the expense of performance.  I have no problem with the trade for Adrian Gonzalez.  And I don’t have a problem with targeting Crawford.  Where they fell short on Crawford was the cost.  Crawford’s on the field performance certainly justified the Red Sox pursuing him.  Keep in mind at the time they had Ellsbury coming off injury and he NEVER displayed the power he had in 2011.

    In summary, non-story.  As long as the owners continue to invest in the team, which they have, then I have no problem with them not being a baseball “fan”.

  • Anonymous

    Valentine didn’t win two World Series.

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