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Curt Schilling: ‘Members of the [Red Sox] organization’ encouraged me to use PEDs 02.07.13 at 10:08 am ET
By Jerry Spar
Curt Schilling received 38.8 percent of the votes in his first year on Hall of Fame ballot. (AP)

Curt Schilling

Curt Schilling, in a Wednesday interview on ESPN Radio, said toward the end of his tenure with the Red Sox he was encouraged to use performance-enhancing drugs by “members of the organization.”

“At the end of my career, in 2008 when I had gotten hurt, there was a conversation that I was involved in in which it was brought to my attention that this is a potential path I might want to pursue,” Schilling told Colin Cowherd.

Asked for more details, Schilling said the conversation occurred in the clubhouse and involved “former members of the organization — they’re no longer there. It was an incredibly uncomfortable conversation. Because it came up in the midst of a group of people. The other people weren’t in the conversation but they could clearly hear the conversation. And it was suggested to me that at my age and in my situation, why not? What did I have to lose? Because if I wasn’t going to get healthy, it didn’t matter. And if I did get healthy, great.

“It caught me off guard, to say the least. That was an awkward situation.”

Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez is in the middle of another PED controversy, this one involving a reputed HGH-peddler in Florida, and Schilling said it’s likely to spell the end of A-Rod’s career.

“I don’t think he’s going to be able to play physically this year anyway [after offseason hip surgery]. I really don’t,” Schilling said. “But I would be shocked if he [ever played again] — not shocked, I’d be surprised. I think he’s done. I think he’s done because I think everybody that has a say in him coming back wants him to be done.”

Schilling said there were always questions about Rodriguez shortly after he broke into the big leagues as a teenager.

“Given where he came from, from a college perspective, and given all the stuff that’s coming out, and it seems that Florida is a hotbed for a lot of this stuff — I know there were always questions,” Schilling said. “There were a couple of guys that were in the conversation well before this became a topic of conversation. There were a couple of guys that guys wondered early in their careers, that were in the conversation.”

Brewers outfielder Ryan Braun also was linked to the controversial Florida adviser, Anthony Bosch, but Braun has insisted that the relationship consisted of a legal consultation between Bosch and the player’s agent.

“This is getting to a point where you almost have to treat every player under the same blanket,” Schilling said. “I want to believe that Ryan Braun didn’t. I want to believe that his explanation is legit. [But] this guy [Bosch], clearly he’s not a doctor. I think they made it very clear in the article that he’s not a doctor. So why would [Braun's] agents be using him as an expert witness to testify to the T/E ratios and the possibilities of tampering with samples?”

Added Schilling: “This is one of those things that we make it a lot more complicated than it is. If you’re associating with the guy and you’re doing business with the guy, the guy’s business is HGH and performance-enhancing drugs, right? Unless there’s something else there I don’t know about. But that’s what I know he does. So, why else would you be associating with the guy?”

Schilling also made news last week, when he weighed in on the controversy regarding gay athletes. Tweeted Schilling last Friday:

I’ve never understood this ‘issue’ with gay players? Who cares? I know I played with some, their sexual orientation never had much to do with how they hit with RISP, or pitched in late and close situations, why the hell would what they do in the bedroom ever matter?

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  • Kenkarken

    Typical piece of S–T Why don’t you just go the f–k away as nobody cares about your BS

  • Rallan1968

    So the Big Schill is talking about PEDs again. Until he has to testify in front of a Grand Jury. Then he ll say he doesn t remember anything.

  • MP

    CS will be doing anything to get publicity and money

  • Stephen

    This story has legs!!Organization?Is he insinuating Theo or Larry?Of all the steroid talk in a decade can not remember encouragement from the top.The wonderful championships have now faded from memory between this type of news and Tito’s book.

  • Jimy Krystle

    Does anybody like Curt Schilling?

  • Xander Bogaerts

    Shilling piping in just before Spring training again.

  • Doug from Woburn

    What a blowhard, have some guts. Don’t tease it, if you have something to say come out and say it. He loves the attenion this type of comment will bring….” I know something that you don’t know” …blah blah blah

  • Anonymous

    Please name names Schilling.  Or don’t talk about it at all.  

  • Anonymous

    Sorry but this sounds and smells like bovine excrement. Schill spins a story that is impossible to verify but entices Red Sox fans for what purpose? I think we all know the answer to that question. 

  • BostonBaby

    I’m so sick of this idiot Clown running his mouth.  Curt, do everyone a favor and die!!!!

  • BostonBaby

    NOPE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WW4SUGV5J6Y7R5MVPAWVIWAJFU Dennis

    Don’t read to much into the organization remark,if you are a player then you are part of the organization.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_WW4SUGV5J6Y7R5MVPAWVIWAJFU Dennis

    And as Tito’s book goe’s remember he also called them a good ownership.Francona is also pissed at them.So when you read anything from his point of view,then you have to view it with caution.

  • Fab4ever

    You want Curt to shut the f up?  Put him in front of congress.  He’ll turtle faster than guy in a cold pool.

  • Stephen

    Good point!!

  • Dano50

    What a gutless wonder.  There goes the last shred of respect I ever had for this guy.  He just slandered every person in the organization with that comment.  They are all suspect by wording it so.  How stupid can one be?  Hey Curt…was it your boy Tito that urged you to cheat?  Or just the clown you keep seeing in the mirror?  Got any good stock tips for us while you’re flapping those gums?  

  • Ironden227

    Curt Schilling is pure trash.

  • ih8sno

    ..anything for money huh Schill? Let me guess,.you’ve got a book deal coming?
     Meanwhile, R.I. is left holding the bag for the $10 million you took, errrr,.. swindled,.. and you knowing full well you’d never be paying it back! 
     
    How pathetic!

  • ih8sno

    ..anything for money huh Schill? Let me guess,.you’ve got a book deal coming?
     Meanwhile, R.I. is left holding the bag for the $10 million you took, errrr,.. swindled,.. and you knowing full well you’d never be paying it back! 
     
    How pathetic!

  • ih8sno

    ..anything for money huh Schill? Let me guess,.you’ve got a book deal coming?
     Meanwhile, R.I. is left holding the bag for the $10 million you took, errrr,.. swindled,.. and you knowing full well you’d never be paying it back! 
     
    How pathetic!

  • MP

    This idiot should be banned from talking

  • MP

    This idiot should be banned from talking

  • MP

    This idiot should be banned from talking

  • Ronjb441960

    i  take schilling over  Choke-rod  anyday……

  • Anonymous

    There are no legs to the story, he clearly states that people involved are no longer there. Theo left, that would be your only argument. He was probably referring to Manny and Papi.

  • Anonymous

    I wish he was never part of the Red Sox Organization, I’m so sick of him bad mouthing it. Was Arizona that perfect?
     

  • Jon

    Ungrateful Redsox fans, I see.

  • Mike

    Hey hows your video game business going for ya??? Hahaha u suck @$$ Curt!!

  • JB234

    This just shows how incredibly stupid you people are. Curt Schilling is the reason the team won a WS. The guy is everything thats right about baseball. He did things the right way. Go away you pink hat wanabees

  • JB234

    This just shows how incredibly stupid you people are. Curt Schilling is the reason the team won a WS. The guy is everything thats right about baseball. He did things the right way. Go away you pink hat wanabees

  • Natedizel

    I think alot of people on here are just mad because hes calling out your redsox. Im a redsox fan to and thats the first thing i thought of. But its not a big deal guys its with all the MLB clubs

  • Natedizel

    I think alot of people on here are just mad because hes calling out your redsox. Im a redsox fan to and thats the first thing i thought of. But its not a big deal guys its with all the MLB clubs

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZVFM2HRNC5CTO2OUXD4XTX65O4 Dennis

     The clown just can’t stop digging, can he? 

  • Fenwayfan9

    let it go shill! came to fame is a bloody sock…….

  • Mu2denny

    Curt is indicting everyone in the red sox nation. Name names. Generalizing that event actually took place is disingenuous at best and a lie at its worse. Name names, he is not super loved in boston. A very good pitcher horrible spokesman and PR machine
    Here comes the FBI again

  • Stephen

    For some reason I thought front office but suppose your your right maybe Ortiz.

  • Bmichaud

    It has to be Pesky…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dale-Sams/100000048856479 Dale Sams

    1) You cared enough to read it, you cared enough to comment.

    2) All Schilling did was answer a question….

    3) No Schilling, no 2004. He can f–k your sister as far as I’m concerned.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dale-Sams/100000048856479 Dale Sams

    Like you read Tito’s book.

  • jpdr

     Uh, yeah. Guess you forgot 2004 already, huh?

  • jpdr

    You’re an idiot.

  • Dodgerfanjerry

    You really loved this idiot Clown when he was getting it done for your team.LOL

  • Mujo

    Ha ha! Pretty ironic you grandma’s-basement-dwelling chowderheads calling Shilling an “idiot clown running his mouth.”

  • AL34

    If they ever successfully rescind AROD’s contract, he is going to name every player who is using PEDs on the Yankees and some of these names are going to shock fans, really shock the. Its never going to happen. He will be back next year when things cool down.

  • Dan Larkin

    Go away Curt.

  • JIM BULGE

    He speaks the truth so everyone is uneasy with that. Good you you Schill. Gotta love our RED SOX HERO

  • Lefty

    They’re both pathetic!

  • Midiexpert

    I don’t like Schilling, but I find his comments intriguing. The fact that he says the people who talked PEDS with him are “no longer with the organization” leads me to believe it’s the medical/training staff, who all got purged over the past couple of years. And they would of course know the most about what PEDS might do for him. What’s discouraging is the possible truth that officials on a team’s medical or training staff would “encourage” PED use. This is something different then what we usually hear, where some shady “doctor” or fitness expert, or other charlatan promotes their products from inside the underground. Let’s not kill the messenger, even though I agree he turtled in Congress. That was then and this is now. He still has something to lose (his ESPN gig, etc.). I don’t think he’s making this up, he’s never been known as a liar, just a blowhard. And being a blowhard isn’t the worst thing you can be in life. I don’t think he used PEDS. That alone puts him ahead of a lot of other stars, IMO.

  • RS diehard

     Mr Schilling.. You are a piece of work! You too mentioned to Congress
    about steroids, yet you should of said NO! I despise people who use
    anonymous names. Come out and say who they are! Until then give me a
    break, and go find someone who will vote for you and the HOF. How about
    your wife crying “oohh I was a single parent raising kids” yet she did
    not mind the money you were making. Matter of fact, how about finding a
    buyer for your FAKE sock. Right just as fake as your company in RI that
    you suckered the people of the state to help support you. Should of
    known back in Spring Training when you brought your purple hummer to the
    RS that you were what I thought you were right along…. A freaking
    loser!

  • Shennessey

    Why is this a shock to some people, two of the biggest juice heads in the sport Manny and Papi used them and that’s the only reason they won in 2004 & 2007. This such a joke of an organization, they killed A-Roid when he was exposed, and everybody should have killed him. But when there player’s are exposed there is a not a word. We are still waiting for Papi to tell us what happened years later. I think he is still a juicehead

  • Shennessey

    Why are you sick of it? Because it exposes the Red Sox? Two of the biggest juice heads in the sport Manny and Ortiz i believe helped the Sox cheat there way to the titles in 2004 & 2007. Schilling is a blowhard and says a lot of things that are out there, but i do remember last year him saying the Valentine hiring was a joke and would not end well, and how did that turn out? What reason does he have to lie about this? Sweet Caroline

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=508264588 Adonis Sanchez

    I hate to say it but this is probably Shill trying to get attention again…..

  • Brian

    Yeah, bad guys cheat and take steroids.  Good guys just take a full years paycheck without throwing a single pitch, and take tons of government money for a failed hobby project all while complaining about poor people and government waste.  Good to know.

  • Anonymous

    The posters here continue to show how really pathetic they are;  you people need to get a life.  Every time Schilling even appears anywhere, you a**clowns are jumping all over him.  You’d think he was Bucky Dent of something.   

  • Doc86

    Perhaps he didn’t take PEDs because of a potential interaction with the painkillers he was on.

  • Anonymous

    Is it not possible for this slug to just shut his pie hole?

  • http://thinksteroids.com/author/millard-baker/ Millard Baker

    Schilling wants to believe Ryan Braun didn’t use steroids or obtain PEDs from Bosch. But at the same time he wants to believe that Alex Rodriguez used steroids since he was a teenager and obviously obtained from Bosch. He’s definitely resisting urge to “treat every player under the same blanket.”

  • Anonymous

    Hey Curt, next time take the stuff. Certainly couldn’t have hurt any. We all assume every baseball player does anyways and MLB could care less about enforcement. Just ask Ryan Braun. 

    I mean, wake up, every pro sport is riddled with drug users who are blindly celebrated and you know how much we care? We don’t, we will still watch as you overpaid stiffs pump every thing imaginable into your bodies to entertain us slightly more. We don’t even care if you kill people, just  play for us and we will love you regardless. Want proof, call it Ray Lewis. 

  • Notsob00

    In the sox clubhouse they have a sign “What is said in here stays in here” he broke the the golden rule what a worthless s.o.b. sounds like someone is trying to get a book deal. Just go away & pay your bills deadbeat

  • Dope Hunter

    Curt, will you just shut the F up and GO AWAY……. 

  • jimromeisasass

    FAT BOY- put the filter on

  • Fab4ever

    ummm…dude, you gotta steal my ID and that’s the best you can do?

  • Fab4ever

    You total moron…and talk about naieve….God, don’t you have any shame? Like the Yankees and all of baseball wasn’t complicit when they won in 2009???? Get a grip…your stupidity knows no bounds….It’s a baseball problem, not a Boston problem…you wanna talk roids? Again you total fraud…possibly the greatest stretch of championship teams were the Yankees in the late 90′s…you wanna start naming names? How many guys were juicing to help them win? Clemens, Pettite, Knoublach, Giambi. Justice, ….and a few more…don’t you have some shopping carts to retrieve?

  • Mullaneyl

    So Big Schill is broke, now he comes out with this. Please pay attention to me somebody, I’m so important.

  • Teechef

    say what you will haters…..schilling , aside from his political views, is a hero to me. he didn’t ask for superstar money when he negotiated his own contract, but he did guarantee a pennant and world series which he helped to deliver and THEN  got his bonus. i wish more athletes would enter into contracts such as that . 

  • Theodore

    Why Go Away?   Isn’t he a journalist now?   Its not like he’s just some citizen waxing poetic. He gets paid for these spots.   You think Curt’s bad?  Wait till next year when Sweet Baby Ray Lewis has a mic in his hand

  • steve

    hate to say it people…….but let’s face it..Curt is in love with himself….why, does he squeal on “other” players all the time…..Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think PED is a good thing, but Curt makes off like he’s some sort of pure God or something…OK, Curt…you had some good years and some great years…but you sucked at times too….. stick to your own carreer when you make comments please!

  • http://www.facebook.com/pete.lincoln.338 Pete Lincoln

    No wonder we don’t have more whistleblowers.  People just don’t want to hear it and prefer their head in the sand. 

    Theo confirmed the story. Theo had reported Schillings allegation to MLB and it was investigated at the same time 2 security staffers were investigated.  The security staffers were fired for steroid possession, while the staffer mentioned by Schilling was not fired for suggesting he use HGH.  It’s not known there is any linkage, but you can not rule it out.  The investigation of the security staffers and firing was widely reported at the time.

    Luchhino when first asked about Schillings statement which triggered an investigation by MLB  claimed he was unaware and that he needed to look into it, and then confirmed he was aware after it came out.

    So what is Schilling being vilified for?  For reporting on a drug pusher in the Red Sox clubhouse that triggered an investigation by MLB.

    What a  crime.  Why the employee was not fired is an interesting question, even if he has moved on.

    Heads back in the sands people.

  • http://twitter.com/Zj_6 Zack Jones

    It was a part of the game in that era and people need to accept that and move on. Schilling is just trying to stir stuff up. probably because they hired pedro before they hired him

  • Pedro

    Hey moron Giambi never won a championship. why am i a fraud because i mentioned the two juiceheads Manny and Papi, yes the yankees were juicing to some degree, but i don’t think they were told to be the organization to juice. The Red sox have become the laughing stock of baseball

  • Pedro

    We are still waiting for Papi to come clean years later. Its funny all these Red sox fans thought Schilling was the greatest to ever play in Boston the minute they don’t like what he says, he’s a bum. Its no wonder they sellout to see a last place team, they have the dumbest fans in sports. these are the same fans who chant yankees suck while they are losing 15-3 to the Yankees. There is a reason the Yankees have 27 titles, they play to win championships, the Red sox play to sell tickets and sell bricks, Sweet Caroline

  • Nighttrain75

    will never understand the dislike for schilling. without him we probably don’t have that championship in 04. nothing he could ever say will change that. you all should be freaking grateful for what he did.

    i will admit that he does come off as an arse sometimes but he almost always speaks the truth. we just live in a sissy, nanny state where no one wants to be accountable for their actions but they love to hold people accountable for theirs. 

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZC3IUOD6SPSLIONVH7NDTBQJ4 Frank

    I can’t believe someone could talk so much and say so little. The paragraph that begins “Given where he came from” ….” is a classic example of double-speak with no actual statement of fact. It reminds me of my answers to essay questions when I was in High school and hadn’t studied for a test.

  • Theodore

     People always bring up Giambi because of his mysterious illness in 2004, specially after hitting 2 HR’s in game 7 in 03. Plus Giambi looked like a wild boar & had veins poppin out of his chin and neck.   Red Sox haven become laughable since late in the 2011 season, but none of that has to do with roids. If papi fessed up would people never again mention him in the ped conversation…..like pettite?   Or would you rather he deny & go away like Sheffield?  Also…lets assume what Curt says is true…How do you know if the Yanks that juiced didn’t get advice within the organization? We’ll never know & honestly I don’t care. But i will always hate the Yankees & their bold ignorant fanbase. That much is for sure.

  • Burnsy729

    I don’t mind picks used for ST needs as long as Gronk can sit them out…Love Dobson pick for much needed WR depth…GO PATS!

  • Big_tuna

    looking for some Jersey magic. over thinking and over valuing again..

  • Kirk_Herbstreet

    While Rutgers went 9-4, 5-2 (Big East) they didn’t really play anyone & they lost to Kent State. Do the Pats really need to fill out the special teams. Couldn’t they package the 7th round picks this year for a 3rd next year?

  • Herbert Walker

    I heard the Pats and Jets are working on a brady/sanchez trade

  • Herbert Walker

    WOW THIS SEEMS LEGIT!!!!!!!! SIGN ME UP

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