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David Ortiz on Bobby Valentine: ‘If the head is messed up, the body is going to be all over the place’ 02.12.13 at 12:45 pm ET
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David Ortiz expressed his displeasure with Bobby Valentine's managerial style. (AP)

FORT MYERS, Fla. — During a conversation about his impression of the moves made by the Red Sox this offseason, designated hitter David Ortiz was asked whether the team’s moves to acquire a number of players considered to have excellent clubhouse makeup was a reflection of an issue in the team’s character of a year ago. Ortiz, who described the 2012 campaign as the most frustrating of his career based on the team’s struggles and his inability to help while injured, targeted not his former teammates but instead former Red Sox manager Bobby Valentine.

“You know, a lot of players have a lot of issues with our manager last year. We have a new manager, a guy who is familiar with the organization, a guy who we pretty much grew up around. That’s John [Farrell],” said Ortiz. “An organization, a team is like the human body. If the head is right, the body is going to function right. If the head is messed up, then the body is going to be all over the place. It seemed like that was part of our situation last year. Guys weren’t comfortable with the manager that we had. Guys were struggling. Even situations that, as a player, you need to handle better, sometimes you get confused and you get caught in a situation where you don’t know how you’re going to react to things.

“The first thing that our organization did was to go out there and try to fix that. I’m pretty sure that everybody is looking at that as a positive move. Now, it’s like a fresh start. I’m pretty sure a lot of guys are comfortable with what they’re going to be seeing. We’re going back to the basics with a manager like John.”

Ortiz painted the picture of a team that struggled with a manager who seemingly wanted to reinvent the wheel in 2012. He cited what he viewed as unusual spring training drills as an example, suggesting that some of Valentine’s drills led to an atmosphere of discomfort even before the start of the regular season.

“Last year in spring training, just to give an example, when we were doing the workouts, I started seeing things that I had never seen in baseball, since I’ve been playing baseball,” said Ortiz. “I’ve been watching baseball and playing baseball for a long time. So I had question marks for those things that I saw last year. Those question marks went into the season, and you guys saw the disaster that happened to us last year. Now you’re going back to seeing the things that you are used to. Baseball is a game that is a little complicated. When you start to add things to that, me personally, I don’t think things get any better. It just gets worse. Hopefully that’s not the case now.

“We were doing drills, some game-changing things. For example, we were talking earlier today, we were practicing cutoffs and relays. The throw coming in from the outfielder, the second baseman and the shortstop had to go two feet away from the outfielder, cut off the ball and make the throw to home plate, giving the runner the extra step. Why don’t you just have the outfielder throwing the ball all the way through and try to get the guy out at home plate? I don’t remember us getting any runner out at home plate with that play. That was new for me.

“I saw guys hitting the cutoff man, being 20 feet away from the infield. So you’re going to tell me as an outfielder, you can’t throw the ball to home plate when you’re 20 feet from the infielder?” he continued. “Those are the things, I think, that didn’t make the games any better. If as an outfielder, you’re going to approach the ball and you already know that you’ve got to hit the guy that’s 20 feet away from you, then you’re going to walk away from strength. That’s what I think. That’s a different baseball game than the one I grew up watching and playing. Little things like that happened. Everybody has their reasons to do it. But it’s a different game than the one we grew up watching.

“Those are things that you see it, the following year you try to fix it and try to go back to the basics.”

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  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZVFM2HRNC5CTO2OUXD4XTX65O4 Dennis

     Wonder if it hurts his Achilles to kick Bobby V around. Odd how they do it from a distance.

  • Bill

    Hey David, if the body’s messed up (from HGH) so is the head.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michael-Kenney/100003003430824 Michael Kenney

    Well, David, the bottom line is that it is the players who play the game, not the manager.  Any look at the Boston Red Sox of the last three years will show a team and individual players who completely failed to play to their alleged potential and who absolutely did not play equal to the salaries they were being paid.  Additionally, the same look see will also show a management who consistently failed (and still are failing) to correctly assess the starting pitching staff.  That starting pitching has been the biggest failure on this team for at least three years.  Yes, this team has had more than its’ fair share of injuries, but the most correct assessment is that players failed to play to the levels expected of them.  That Ortiz and others on this team look to blame anyone or anything but themselves and continue to do so does not speak well for them nor does it augur well for the future performance of the team.

  • On The Can Commenting at Work

    Not excusing the team which was very difficult to root for but Bobby V was a terrible hiring decision and the cutoff drills are a perfect example of it….

  • Bubba

    I am sure everyone will rip Ortiz for his comments, but it doesn’t take away from the fact that BV’s tenure with the Sox will go down as one of the worst examples of managing in MLB history. 

  • Johnny Spygate

    David Ortiz: Class act juicer

    • On The Can Commenting at Work

      we’re so much wiser because of you! Yes I know move on… or tell me to get my shinebox… you are a one trick pony Spygate.. you must love making a donkey of yourself…

  • Kenkarken

    Shut up Fat Boy and prove your worth the $$$ the Red Sox are giving you.

  • Totally Blind fandom

    I mean c’mon. Ortiz , shut up and look forward to the new season O.K.? Crying about having to learn new cutoff plays and new drills last year just looks stupid. That’s probably the reason the Sox have been so unlikable the past few years everyone whines and cries and points fingers at everyone but themselves. Enough already!Man up and shut up about the past.

    • Anonymous

      So he shouldn’t answer questions in an interview.  Got it.  I’m sure he pulled aside someone just to say this stuff.  You people are ridiculous.  Go be a fan of the Royals, PLEASE.  

      • Totally Blind fandom

        Hey buddy , I follow baseball and I know that running your mouth about the past is no way to head to the future. You know what’s really ridiculous, people who get all high and mighty when some fans don’t toe the party line..I’m not a sheep. What you think it’s O.k. to babble on and point fingers and take no responsibility for your own actions.I like Ortiz and am one of his biggest defenders, but as the movie said”There’s no crying in baseball.”…Your insults and high and mighty nonsense are boring the hell at of me..and I can tell your one of those people who punched their fan card after 2004.Good for you  ,Let’s not question anything right, and let’s all get particiation ribbons…hmm sure. I’d say go follow the Royals to you but I think their brand of baseball may be too much for you..why don’t you go thumb wrestle yourself into a ditch.

        • Anonymous

          HAHAHA….man you’re so out of touch.  I “punched” my fan card in 1990 when I was 5, pal.  My favorite players have been Scott Cooper, Tim Naehring, Tony Pena, etc.  Where the hell were you in the 90′s when we really had issues?  I bet you don’t even know who those players are.  You troll these players when they’re being asked questions in interviews by reporters trying to get these specific answers.  You act like they call over people to listen to them complain.  It’s spring training and your ripping a player answer spring training questions at a picnic table.  You act like this team owes you something and its pathetic.

  • EstherRolle

    last i knew is that “all about me” ortiz doesn’t know how to play the field, yet he’s an expert on fielding ?  it’s easy to blame the manager, the team didn’t hustle and was too busy protecting their own statistics.  sox only signed “all about me” for the marketing purposes, good luck with last place again.  tear down fenway and build a real ball park.

    • Anonymous

      You need to be an expert now to understand basic cut off principles?  Is anything he said inaccurate.  Just admit it, you’re a hater.  You’ll whine and complain and hate and hate until all of sudden we’re in the hunt again and Sox are the greatest.  Pathetic fans.

      • Lboat3258

        Ohhh, those nasty “HATERS” again.  Sports, politics……….they’re everywhere!  What’s a drone to do?

      • Jimmy Walker

        Leave my mom alone, she means well.

      • dave in nh

        you need to lay off the fenway kool aid!

  • HopJim

    Curious why Ortiz choosen by management as the face of the Red Sox.  Ex-HGH, “me first” kind of guy not the way to change the clubhouse or increase wins.

    • Doug

      He’s a driving force, a man who most look up to, you can rip anyone on past allegations, it does no good, your attitude is worse than Valentines, thats’ a shame, because the Red Sox will have a pretty good team this year, and you’ll be stuck on your fault finding mission.

    • Dee-fense, dee-fense!

      The truth hurts?

  • Doug

    Nothing new here, I think he just wanted to get even, Valentine had dissed a few players over the Winter and Ortiz was one of them, good for him,  Now we can start playing ball and forgetting about Capt. Queeg.

  • Anonymous

    Haha, you people are so predictable.  Who needs good players with fans like these?  LOL

  • Xander Bogaerts

    Now it was all Bobby’s fault? Same group same attitude. Everyone else’s fault but theirs.

    • Shennessey

      the fact of the matter is this, the team sucked, the manager sucked, and the front office sucked, this is why they are a last place team. don’t see that changing anytime soon, they haven’t won a playoff game in over 5 years. they have probably the worst corner outfielder’s in all of baseball. they signed Napoli who can’t play first base and will butcher the position all year, if he stays on the field. Victorino was considered by most baseball people the worst signing in baseball. this team is a joke

    • Jack Chase

      Bobby had the same problem in Texas.  

  • Blowhard at 14M

    Should have told him to his face. Bobby V gone a long time and three pitchers have physical problems already. Ortiz at 90%. Shut up and get in shape.

  • A-Roid

    We are still waiting for this juice head to explain why he was on the list of cheater’s, how many years has it been?

  • http://www.facebook.com/pete.lincoln.338 Pete Lincoln

    Too bad he did not speak up last year. 

    At least Bobby V got them a top 10 draft pick.  Thanks for that Bobby.

  • Cousin Joey P.

    Is this clown the biggest excuse maker ever known to man or what? Hey David, what ever happened to getting to the bottom of your name being on the Mitchel Report? I thought you were going to tell us what happened? Do you think Bobby Valentine had anything to do with you barging in on Tito’s press conference two years ago because the official scorer robbed you of an RBI? Was that Valantine’s fault too? This guy is the biggest fraud in pro sports and people let him get away with it.

  • Bill Tse

    Good follow up on why they sucked in 2011 and had the biggest collapse ever if it was all about the manager.  Red Sox ball washing started right on time this year. 

  • Boston_Sports

    Wonderful, this is a team, and Ortiz is part of this team, that gave up on TITO in the now infamous September and started the following season with Pedroia throwing Bobby V under the bus in spring training. Some team. Ortiz better have an awesome season after his huge guaranteed contract or he may not be shown “any respect” from the fans.

  • Salmonrusty

    Whatever Bobby V’s faults and according to the Sox blogs they are legion, he was set up to fail. Bringing in a tough manager and then not supporting him gave the players free rein to revolt, These overpaid prima donnas let the fans down. They were on the field and needed to suck it up and get the job done. I don’t see anything to expect different this year. How long before the Farell was the wrong choice, not enough experience blah, blah, blah comments begin to be slung about the media by “inside sources”? and the p.d.’s get another free ride. The only positive this year is that Jake will play his ()() off for a full season . so he can scram next year for big $$. Not a good time to be a Sox fan.

  • Tim R

    Love how Pedroia was having none of Papi’s blame game nonsense. Pedey said it was the PLAYERS who failed last year not Bobby V.
    My respect for Pedey has returned.  

    • Anonymous

      great point..,could not agree more.

  • Tim R

    BTW, can’t stand the Boston baseball beat writers who NEVER challenge a thing these clowns say. NEVER. God it’s so sickening.  

  • Paul

    Love what he’s done for the organization on the field, but won’t miss him after 2014.

  • Anonymous

    did the sox run ortiz through the same physical that they put napoli through b/4 they extended his contract? another example of the sox bending over backward to appease a player. big papi’s act is is just to old. 

  • Thinkeranalyzer

    Ortiz has been an overpaid bench warmer, grabbing outrageous money based on long ago late game heroics during the steroid era.  Then he complains as if he is still relevant. Go away.  If management was any good, they’d find a young Ortiz not this old grouch.

  • dave in nh

    shut up and keep your big butt on the field!

  • Anonymous

    Time to forget last year play hard for Farrell

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