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Larry Lucchino on D&C: Terry Francona’s perceptions ‘mischaracterized’ by Dan Shaughnessy 02.13.13 at 11:17 am ET
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Red Sox president/CEO Larry Lucchino checked in with Dennis & Callahan on Wednesday morning, and much of the conversation centered on Terry Francona‘s book that paints Lucchino in an unflattering light.

Lucchino said he decided not to read the book — at least for now — and minimize his comments about it. Told that it doesn’t seem to be his nature to avoid addressing an issue like this, Lucchino responded: “Sometimes my nature doesn’t always lead me to the right place. But I think in this case it makes perfect sense.

“I certainly have heard a little bit about the book, so I know some of its themes. If I did read it, I would probably find that it’s even more disappointing than I’ve heard, that it’s highly selective. It’s history as translated and written by Dan Shaughnessy, so it gives a certain Shaughnessy twist to it — I think many of us know what that can mean.

“It seems that if I did read it, the probabilities of my making some intemperate remark or getting involved in some collateral discussion of it would prevent me from doing my job right now. I’ve got a full plate of things. The 2013 season is a demanding one and has been. The offseason’s been demanding and there’s a lot for us to do. I just don’t need — and I don’t think the franchise needs — a debate of what’s right and what’s wrong. As I said, it’s highly selective.”

Added Lucchino: “I’m not a bully. I don’t think I behave that way. You can talk to lots of people who will I think give you a slightly different impression.”

Lucchino acknowledged he was disappointed that some discussions he believed were private were referenced in the book, but he expressed a bigger concern with how Shaughnessy “mischaracterized” Francona’s perceptions.

“Certainly a lot of the things we talked about we did not anticipate would be the subject or be material for a book afterwards. That’s a little troubling,” Lucchino said. “But I have fond feelings for Tito. I have good memories about what happened. I understand that he left feeling a certain way about the organization and about us. But I believe he has said a whole number of positive things since then. And I just prefer not to get into a kind of discussion about how Dan Shaughnessy translated a lot of these things and characterized them — or in my view, mischaracterized them.

“I’ll give you an example: One of the themes of the book, I’m told, is that we care more about money than winning, we are more about marketing and ratings and money and the profits that will be generated from baseball than the winning. I think that’s silly. I think it’s wrong. Look at our track record. We’ve had the second- or third-highest payroll in baseball for years. We’ve won more games over our first decade than any team in baseball except the Yankees. Our payroll’s been higher than any team in baseball except the Yankees. We’ve reinvested not just into the ball team but into the ballpark, into scouting, player development. It seems to me that the body of work demonstrates that — and we have not taken one penny of profit distribution out of this club. Everything we’ve generated from these activities has been reinvested in the team, in the payroll, in the scouting, player development, amateur signings, foreign signings. We have taken the revenue that we have generated and put it back in this team, for the success of the team, the preservation of the ballpark. And I think that speaks for itself. I don’t need to be out there saying, ‘My goodness, we care more about winning than money.’ It should be self-evident. It should be clear from our track record.”

Lucchino scoffed at the implication that he and the other Sox owners — John Henry and Tom Werner — do not “love” the game.

“One can be a little defensive when that kind of silliness is thrown about,” Lucchino said. “I’ve been in baseball for other 30 years. I walked away from a legal profession. And I’ve played the game my whole life. Here I am being defensive. I don’t want to do that. Listen, my career is what it is. And my love for the game is what it is. I’m not going to try to explain it to anyone. That’s another impression that comes from the book that’s a little misleading.”

Lucchino also took the opportunity to again deny that he and the other owners had anything to do with the Boston Globe story that embarrassed Francona after the 2011 season.

“There’s one other misconception in the book that I do know about that I would like to mention. And that is this erroneous notion that somehow we — John, Tom, myself, somebody in the ownership group — [were] responsible for slamming Tito on the way out by disclosing private, negative information about him. That just didn’t happen,” Lucchino said. “We’ve said it over and over. The reporter who wrote it acknowledged that to us. Terry Francona has said it. It’s a scurrilous kind of gossip that shouldn’t be credited. And I’m glad I have a chance to I hope put it to bed. … It just is not true.”

Added Lucchino: “[Francona] doesn’t believe it was us. He personally has said that since the book has come out. As I said, oftentimes things get translated by Dan Shaughnessy. And we all know Dan is a distinctive kind of negative, wise-guy style. He’s not likely to win any prizes for American history. … I’ll take what Tito’s said recently as a better measurement of how he feels.”

Following are more highlights from the conversation. To hear the interview, go to the Dennis & Callahan audio on demand page. For more Red Sox news, visit the team page at weei.com/redsox.

On the Red Sox being predicted to finish at or near the bottom of the AL East: “I’m OK with that. My sense is that the expectations, or the prognosticators or the pundits, whatever, they are more often wrong than right. It’s a very complicated game, very difficult to project success. I can only point back to the last couple of years and the kind of success they predicted for us in 2011 and the catastrophe that it ended up being. So, I take it with a grain of salt. I kind of prefer being the underdog, being the scrappy, hard-charging team that people don’t expect much from. I think that’s maybe a bit of a competitive advantage. If we fall into that category, so be it. I just don’t think that these preseason guesses are likely to mean very much.”

On David Ortiz being slowed by a heel injury: “I’m encouraged that he kept up with his rehab over the offseason. He’s had some agility drills that he’s demonstrated to our medical team, the current condition. And as long as he’s ready to go when the bell goes off on Opening Day, that’s good enough for me.”

On the team’s strategy regarding free agents, and in particular a player such as Josh Hamilton: “When it comes to Hamilton and any sort of large-ticket free agent, we have shifted our focus a bit, to be sure. We’ve been obvious about that, and I think I’ve spoken publicly about that. We are highly skeptical of long-term deals. I think the body of evidence in baseball over many, many years demonstrates the inefficiency of those things, and the ineffectiveness of those kind of contracts. So, we will be careful. But we will never exclude the possibility of some exceptions to the rule. I think we have to keep all avenues open. There was discussion about Hamilton. But when it became clear that it was likely to be a five-, six-, seven-year contract, we thought there was a better way to redeploy the money we had saved from similar long-term contracts.”

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  • Jake

    For a guy that hasn’t read the book he sure seems to know alot about what is in it.

    • Wmeritz

       He read the Cliff Notes!

  • DC

    this guy is the man. one of the best CEOs in the game. the track record speaks for itself. haters gon hate.

    • Ron Jeremy

       Hes an idiot who hired Valentine to spite the players.  It blew up in his face and the fans suffered for his arrogance.  A real CEO doesn’t make things personal and makes the right business decisions for his team and trusts the people they hire to do their job.  Larry is a micromanager who is constantly meddling and making bad decisions.  He needs to go.

  • BostonBaby

    I really hate this teams front office, I’m sorry!!!

  • Gazzzmann

    Its to bad both Theo and Ben had to have a Lucchino

  • Hurstak28

    Blame it on Shaughnessy, right Larry. What a classy guy. Sell your BS some place else.

  • Anonymous

    All bullies will say until they’re blue in the face that they’re not a bully. You are a bully, Larry.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/ZVFM2HRNC5CTO2OUXD4XTX65O4 Dennis

      Some of the Boston sports media types keep playing Lucchino up as a baseball genius. How’s that working for ya?  The guy is a stiff.

  • Bruinman86

    Tough to believe a word this guy says.  Even if it may be the truth.  Of all the people in the organization to dislike, he’s the king.

    • Uncle Buck

      I just read where Ordway is out of the Big Show.  Replacing him with a local guy named Mike Salk who now is working a morning show in Seattle.  Big O $hitcanned !

      • Johnny Spygate

        I’m offended by his thinly-veiled use of the word s hit.  Usually I’m simply offended by the hacky, sleep-inducing content he spews, but this is over the line for a family web site

      • Bruinman86

        Wow…. I didn’t see that one coming. I knew they had ratings issues, but I didn’t think the Big show was the one to have changes. Butt and Beloni 10-2 is the weaker show. Too bad, I liked him. Thanks for the Heads up.

      • Fab4ever

        He had his moments…it’s a business that getting canned is just part of the deal….he’ll end up somewhere else….

  • Anonymous

    Larry Lucchino is out of touch and should be removed. If he is in charge of the Red Sox then he has made some serious mistakes in the past few years and should be held accountable. This Red Sox team started last season with over 60 million dollars of it’s 2nd or 3rd highest payroll in MLB on the DL. This year we all know they are not a contender for the World Series and they have serious long term talent issues especially in the pitching department. 

    Most of the absolutely moronic signings can all be lead back to failed Mark Texeira negotiation, which by all accounts fell apart because Larry and Boras couldn’t keep their egos in check. Then Larry reacts by throwing huge money after the “big name” John Lackey. Then because Lackey doesn’t give them the desired ratings boost, follows that gem up with the Carl Crawford signing. This leads to the team not resigning Papelbon and trading a 30 hr hitting OF Josh Reddick for a “closer” who can’t stay healthy Andrew Bailey. Also, having to jettison the entire farm department for Gonzales, then having to include him in a deal just to get out of the Crawford and Beckett situation. Meanwhile, we now have no 1st baseman who was “built” for Fenway, that being Rizzo or Gonzales as I would take either over Mike Napoli and his broken hip. No one cares if you are spending a bunch of money and not getting results. He talks about investing money in all these great things, then where is the accountability? Larry how long does it take to get the medical and scouting department fixed when you are spending top money? The medical department is hurting player development and had been using questionable procedures and medicine. The scouting department has either been dead wrong or ignored with certain signings, which I don’t want to list. How about, now that you jettisoned all the big money contracts out of town you take care of the one player you have left? Ellsbury should have either been traded or signed by now. Not taking care of this has crippled his trade value as he is no longer going to give a team a 1st round draft pick if he leaves after this season, unless he stays with the Red Sox. Also, his value because of his uncertain injury history is really low right now and you could sign him for less. If Ellsbury goes out and has another 30 steal, 30 hr season, his market value will be too much and you will have to way overpay to keep him. This and finding a closer to replace Papelbon should have been their biggest concerns this offseason. Instead they decided to go after a big name in Napoli and will get nothing for it again. 

    • Pedro

      Would not call Napoli a big name, would call him damaged goods that can’t play first base or catch. This is what is important to the sox, selling tickets and bricks. If they were interested in winning why would you fire the best manager in the history of the franchise who won two titles for one of the biggest loser’s in baseball the Red Sox who had not won a title in 86 years. Then turn around and hire one of the worst manager’s in the history of the team. They should call him teflon Larry because nothing sticks to him. You have a Ortiz day, for one reason to make money, why else would you celebrate a juice head and cheat. Ellbury can’t wait to get out of town, he will look great in pinstripes

  • Steve

    Larry, John, Tom, Instead of just letting Terry go because his time was over ,  you decided to leak
    out all those comments. Stop lying that you didn’t. You have disgraced yourselves, and lost most
    of the good will you developed over the past 10 years. What did you expect from Francona, that he
    would just roll over. Your getting what you deserve!

  • JJ

    Enough about the book we know it`s all hogwash ………… i want to know why i have to buy $1400.00 worth of furniture to get a ticket to opening day or to a YANKEE`S GAME …..EXPLAIN THAT  ………………… 

  • Tdarling

    Would like to see a little “Patriot” technique from Larry when it comes to commenting about these type of subjects….can you picture NE Patriot GM talking publicly about this crap? … Neither can I

  • Rrlatici

    lacchino maybe if you and werner had let tito do his job and you did yours things would have been a whole lot better werner needs to be a silent partner and keep his mouth shut,because he knows nothing about baseball.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Billy-Joe/618297186 Billy Joe

    Jake Ballard time to step up!

  • ih8sno

    wtf!!!!! Why do I get the feeling that in the near future we’ll be hearing, “oh what could’ve been” where Gronk is concerned? I mean this would be bad even if you worked a 9-5 manual labor job, but a tight end in pro football with a glass forearm! c’mon this can’t end well.

    • Ty law

      this guy is done, he is a walking injury. Even if he comes back, he is one good hit in that arm from being out again. and where do you think opponents will be hitting him? No Gronk and no Welker no chance

      • Bruinman86

        Don’t go there yet. If he becomes damaged good going forward, they simply replace him and move on.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000425887450 Juan Bermudez

        pats won 3 s.b w/o gronk n traitor?? wat u talking bout

        • Rex ryan

          Haven’t won a super bowl since spy gate, and before you dismiss it as rubbish, it was the largest fine ever given by the NFL

          • Bull

            I think it’s been pretty well established at this point that Gooddell pretty much overreacts to everything.

          • Bull

            I think it’s been pretty well established at this point that Gooddell pretty much overreacts to everything.

          • MSC

            Yet, they have been in 2 since then and had winning records every season since. More than the Gang Green can say

          • MSC

            Yet, they have been in 2 since then and had winning records every season since. More than the Gang Green can say

          • trollhunter

            How about you go suck a toe and choke on it rex?

          • http://www.facebook.com/alan.fisher Alan Fisher

            Jets haven’t won a super bowl since mid last century. I think it proves you stink.

          • scott

            Rexy, you can eat a bag of dicks…..uh, i mean toes!!!

        • Rex ryan

          Haven’t won a super bowl since spy gate, and before you dismiss it as rubbish, it was the largest fine ever given by the NFL

  • Meng

    Its an infection you bunch of morons not a glass forearm his bone will be fine its an infection

    • ih8sno

      Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. That’s sad.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000176790671 Andy Bewsee

        Still trying to figure out why you are talking like it’s NOT an infection. The surgery is to replace the plate that cause the infection….I guess reading isn’t your strong suit…

        • ih8sno

          And yet you’re,..”Still trying to figure out”

          how ironic! lol

      • Yellow snow

        Yea, you’re moron. Go lay down.

        • ih8sno

          “you’re”
          lmao

          • the7

            you’re=you are…..
            you are a moron

          • ih8sno

            It just keeps getting better and better!

          • ih8sno

            ..keep going there’s one more out there that fits! lmfao

          • magic lantern

            That’s why he keeps quoting you guys

          • magic lantern

            That’s why he keeps quoting you guys

          • the7

            you’re=you are…..
            you are a moron

        • ih8sno

          “you’re”
          lmao

  • STRIPPERS and DOLLA BILLS

    HE SHOULD REHAB IN VEGAS…. LOL KNUCKLEHEAD

  • Oy

    Rob, we hardly knew ye…

  • WhyohWhy

    well maybe if hes hurt the first part of the year we can have him in the last half, for the playoffs? Wishful thinking perhaps?

    • Oy

      Hey, we can always dream….

    • Oy

      Hey, we can always dream….

  • http://www.facebook.com/paul.barsalou.9 Paul Barsalou

    Isn’t BOSTON suppose to have the best medical doctors in the world

    • Anonymous

      So much depends on the patient, Paul.

      • ih8sno

        spot on sdbob

    • ih8sno

      They are, but the way it’s been going for this kid, I’m not sure the guys who put Robo Cop together could help.

  • Anonymous

    What in the heck is wrong with the Boston pro sports medical staffs? Shouldn’t first year residents be able to handle this stuff?

  • Anonymous

    What in the heck is wrong with the Boston pro sports medical staffs? Shouldn’t first year residents be able to handle this stuff?

  • Schwank

    Longest broken arm in the history of mankind. I jest….but is this normal or is there negligence? I presume he got the infection when they opened him the second time. That said you can’t “pick up” an infection like this post surgery can you?? Reason I bring it up is people have been quick to criticize his liifestyle as a contributing factor. That can’t be if it was “closed” Any DR.’s out there that can enlighten?
    Let’s hope the infection has cleared and the surgery is simply to deal with the plate. If there is infection present maybe they can help clean it up while their in there?

    • really_33

      What if Jalen Rose broke his arm?

      • really_33

        oops derrick

      • really_33

        oops derrick

  • Schwank

    Longest broken arm in the history of mankind. I jest….but is this normal or is there negligence? I presume he got the infection when they opened him the second time. That said you can’t “pick up” an infection like this post surgery can you?? Reason I bring it up is people have been quick to criticize his liifestyle as a contributing factor. That can’t be if it was “closed” Any DR.’s out there that can enlighten?
    Let’s hope the infection has cleared and the surgery is simply to deal with the plate. If there is infection present maybe they can help clean it up while their in there?

  • magic lantern

    Gronks a tough kid early part of schedule is easy. He will be back for the tough games.

  • http://twitter.com/Sportsbozo1 Charles Champagne

    You want to talk about protecting TB, Ballard is in the right place at the right time. Take it a step further Zach Sudfield UDFA will have an opportunity to make this team.

  • Titletown1

    Time to cut bait on this moron who did nothing to help himself heal (unless getting drunk and rolling around on urine and puke covered floors in nightclubs 4 times a week while he was on antibiotics was part of the treatment).

  • football wizard

    I guess there is really something to the notion of preferring a “smart” player. Gronkie seems to have some football smarts but is very challenged on how to take care of himself and for a freak of a physical specimen, has just has some rotten ole’ luck. compare and contrast with Wes Welker who comes up to Gronk’s knee and takes ten times more hits and talk durability. Go figure, no rhyme or reason. It all sux because there is probably no more dynamic and deadly player in an offense were he to reach a superbowl in good health. Will he EVER be in such a position w/ Brady again? Out of potentially 4 more Brady years, i see us going to the show once more and Gronkie will naturally be out or at 50 per cent.

  • richie c

    kraft also got the commish to destroy the evidence. at least one super bowl win is tainted

    • diehard

      go back to mommie’s basement, kid. You suk.

    • Anonymous

      He buried the evidence in the grassy knoll

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